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Bashers Beware
IBD ^ | May 19, 2008

Posted on 05/19/2008 5:55:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

The Presidency: It takes little courage — or brains — to join the mob vilifying President Bush. But the Democrats (and Republicans, too) depicting him as villain will one day regret it.


In the eyes of members of both parties, George W. Bush seems to be the cause of everything from the recent GOP special election losses to a flagging economy to today's bad weather.

Barack Obama plans to reach the White House by claiming the presidency of Sen. John McCain would amount to a third Bush term. McCain, meanwhile, seems to think it a wise campaign strategy to highlight his differences with the president, such as outgreening the greens on global warming.

Rep. Tom Davis, former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, reflected the panic engulfing many Republicans in Congress last week when he called President Bush "absolutely radioactive" and warned, "They've got to get some separation from the president" if they want to win this November.

How about a dose of reality?

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; bdw; bush; elpresidente; georgebush; gop; president; tomdavis
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To: 1035rep
Savage is an idiot if he said that.

And a genius if he didn't!

21 posted on 05/19/2008 6:29:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Kaslin; Diggity
Greatness as defined in a president's term is something, IMO, you can hang a legacy on; i.e.:
Eisenhower--The interstate highway system and the atomic age.
Kennedy--The Space Race takes off, faces down the Russians in Cuba.
LBJ--Civil Rights legislation, but ruins his presidency in Vietnam.
Nixon--the opening of China then ruined his presidency with Watergate.
Ford--the restoration of government after Watergate.
Carter--(nothing really substantial but I suppose you have to give him the Israeli/Egyptian peace accord.)
Reagan--Good God! He ended the Cold War, began SDI, expanded space exploration, restored a disastrous economy, the list is too numerous for this bandwith.
"Read My Lips" Bush--he pulled a stalemate out of an overwhelming Iraqi victory and lost an election to a two-bit huckster from Arkansas.
Clinton??? (cannot think of one thing except allowing terrorism to grow while presiding over a pretty good economy)
"Mission Accomplished" Bush??? (Did respond after 9-11, but squandered the good will of a united nation by refusing to employ overwhelming force in a two-front war and ran up a huge deficit while presiding over record energy prices).
22 posted on 05/19/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 250 and counting))
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To: Griddlee
Michael Savage says Bush is the worst CIC in history.

If so, then Michael Savage is an idiot.

23 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:25 PM PDT by libertylover (How does enabling Mrs. Clinton or Obama help The United States of America?)
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To: lonestar67

Here Here!

Let’s see, the appointments of Roberts and Alito have shifted the balance of the Supreme Court, we have seen things like the Ten Commandments declared Constitutional, Partial Brith Abortion Bans upheld.

Not bad for a guy libeled with a whole bunch of stuff, I disagreed with him on Amnesty, other then that he has been fine.


24 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: lonestar67

Indeed. And the worst thing is the distrators here in FR


25 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:48 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Bush has done some fine even very great things. But what I cannot get over is the out of control spending and the lack of vetoes. We have been worse stewards of the taxpayer’s dollars than the Clinton administration. There was no leadership on that issue.


26 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:56 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Kaslin

Bush has done some things, and not done others that have really pissed me off........... but, on balance, I’d say he’s a pretty darn good president who’s poll numbers have been driven down by an unrelentnig attack media.


27 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:14 PM PDT by umgud (Hillary still has broad support......... in her girdle)
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To: word_warrior_bob

This is not an immigration thread, so don’t even think about making it one.


28 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:18 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: wewereright

Pres. Bush has no-one to blame but himself. He thought he could set a “new tone” in DC. But he ended up doing the political equivalent of a fetal position on the floor for 8 years while he was kicked at from all sides. All the time he should have been fighting back - hard, dirty, and brutal.

I’m really tired of wimpy republicans but it looks like we’re going to get more of the same.

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Politics and professional sports are similar, I think the fans care a lot more than the players.

Bush did a HORRIBLE job of selling the War on Terror, never stood on message, while allowing himself to be savaged daily with no response.

It doesn’t take a genius to know there is no need to invite Teddy Kennedy to Movie Night. He will stab you in the back no matter what you do, how could HE not know who he’s playing against?

Him and his father have done everything they can to resurrect and legitimatize the vile vermin known as William Jefferson Clinton, instead of rightfully marginalizing him.

The Bush family has a wonderful life and all of their decisions to increase government will never have an effect on 100 generations of THEIR families, only ours, and does he care for or fight for our rights, no.

How can I defend a man who REFUSES to defend himself, he whistles merrily along while the party goes down the toilet, some figurehead.


29 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:40 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Kaslin
He did not. . .but the truth of the matter was; for those soldiers who set out to insure that Saddam no longer ruled Iraq; their mission WAS accomplished.

Bush's biggest mistake; was letting the 'Left' ever take an inch of truth. . .on anything. He should have known they would soon take their mile. . .then a hundred miles. . .ad nauseum.

They survive and are empowered on their reinventions of truth. And Bush and the rest of the Repub Party never bother to 'edit'

30 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:22 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Kaslin

Theodore Roosevelt once said “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


31 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:35 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Kaslin
I wouldn't expect to read a detached view on this site. But so far, none of the critics' points have been answered. History has not been written, I'm afraid, and in near term it will be written by liberal academics. Predictions of what will be written are kinda embarassingly ridiculous.

It all kinda depends on what happens afterwards, then the comparisons will be made. In the meantime, the dollar has been deliberately driven down, the energy crisis is for real and no one is showing any leadership on it, Social Security and the tax code are both a mess, unchanged from 8 years ago, and the endless war continues. Quite a legacy.

32 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Kaslin
Didn't have to say it...


33 posted on 05/19/2008 6:40:12 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Kaslin

I used one issue as a disqualifier to the outlandish claim that Bush is the greatest CIC in the past 100 years and quite possibly in history, you interpreting that as turning it into an immigration thread is solely you’re doing.


34 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:10 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Norman Bates

The blame on that question rests primarily with Congress.

Bush’s leadership is not key on the question. I still believe that the domestic spending necessary for security and the war spending put Bush in a much better light than his Cold War cash in critics give him.


35 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:53 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Norman Bates

News Flash to you. Read the constitution. Only Congress can spend money. Not the President. And did it ever occur to to the reason why he didn’t veto any bills from 2001 to 2006 was because we had the majority in both houses?


36 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: TheBattman

It was and is Mission Accomplished

I hope there is no disagreement on this point.


37 posted on 05/19/2008 6:43:39 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Kaslin

I love George Bush.


38 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Kaslin

Of course only Congress can spend. But the President can communicate clearly what he expects, he can lead, and if necessary veto. Our government should not be running deficits. The fact that we held Congress and he couldn’t or wouldn’t get them to get spending under control is even more embarrassing.


39 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:40 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: lonestar67

What he should’ve done his first year with his first budget - yes, before 9/11 and national security expenditures went up - was go after unnecessary subsidies especially Title V. There’s no reason to be throwing all this money down the drain. That agenda shouldn’t been set from the beginning but it was unfortunately set as a get-along go-along approach - and once you give them and inch and a lax impression - they’ll run out of control all over you. Precisely what happened.


40 posted on 05/19/2008 6:48:41 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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