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McCain calls for 700+ new nuclear plants costing $4 trillion
grist.org ^ | 06 May 2008 | Joseph Romm

Posted on 05/19/2008 9:54:02 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

"A nuke in every garage" is the GOP nominee's energy and climate plan.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) made a stunning statement on the radio show of climate change denier Glenn Beck this week:

... the French are able to generate 80 percent of their electricity with nuclear power. There's no reason why America shouldn't.

The Wonk Room, which has the audio, writes of the interview, "McCain Seemingly Agrees With Glenn Beck That Solutions To Climate Change Can Be Delayed." That is lame all by itself. But the statement quoted above is even more radical. McCain is repeating his little-noticed uber-Francophile statement from his big April 2007 speech on energy policy, "If France can produce 80 percent of its electricity with nuclear power, why can't we?"

Why can't we? Wrong question, Senator. The right question is, Why would we? Let's do the math. ...

What would it take for us to be 80 percent nuclear?

We would have to quadruple the number of reactors to 400, which would take decades even if we could somehow return to -- and sustain -- the fastest decadal rate of U.S. nuclear plant construction. But that wouldn't mean just building 300 new nuclear plants, for several reasons.

First, by 2050, almost all of the existing plants would need to be replaced, so that is another hundred to build if we want to hit the 80 percent goal.

And then, since McCain is not a big booster of energy efficiency (his McCain-Lieberman climate bill has no substantive energy efficiency provisions in it at all), we have to deal with some 1.1 percent annual electricity growth, which means we'll need more than 600 nukes in 2050.

Third, McCain wants to switch much of our oil consumption to electricity (a strategy I endorse). As he said in last year's energy policy speech:

I'll work to promote real partnerships between utilities and automakers to accelerate the deployment of plug-in hybrids ... Fifty percent of cars on the road are driven 25 miles a day or less. Affordable battery-powered vehicles that can meet average commuter needs could help us cut oil imports in half.
We import more than 12 million barrels of oil a day. To cut that in half to 6, when EIA projects we will import over 16 in 2030....means replacing far more than 100 billion gallons of gasoline a year with electricity. If 80 percent of that electricity comes from nuclear power, then that is -- very conservatively -- another 100 nukes.

Bottom line

To satisfy McCain's odd desire to be like the French and get 80 percent of our electricity from nuclear power in the coming decades would require building more than 700 (gw-sized) nuclear power plants by mid-century -- more than one a month.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; energy; nuclearpower
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To: agere_contra
Wow. Was McCain being crazy like a fox with his support of the Global Warming garbage?

I have been saying so for months now on this forum, based on conversations with some of his advisers. It is total triangulation. I still don't like his rhetoric, but clearly he is screwing with the Gorian nutbags to get young skulls fush of mush votes.

21 posted on 05/19/2008 10:04:40 AM PDT by montag813
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To: agere_contra
Wow. Was McCain being crazy like a fox with his support of the Global Warming garbage?

I have been saying so for months now on this forum, based on conversations with some of his advisers. It is total triangulation. I still don't like his rhetoric, but clearly he is screwing with the Gorian nutbags to get young-skulls-full-of-mush votes.

22 posted on 05/19/2008 10:05:03 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Again, the Left is using a completely fraudulent argument. The ONLY reason it costs so much and takes so long to build a nuke plant is the absurd Govt regulatory system. Congress can simply pass legislation instructing the bureaucracy to fast track the process and seriously reduce both the cost and the time it would take
23 posted on 05/19/2008 10:05:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One really good thing about this article: it proves that getting rid of oil is IMPOSSIBLE!!!! Anyone with half a brain should realize that creating energy policy on global warming means 2 things:
1.) destroying our economy
2.) giving the government dominant power over how we live our lives


24 posted on 05/19/2008 10:05:21 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Going nuclear is the only real way it can be done. The powers that be in this nation that have let our power supply situation detiorate to today’s crisis should be strung up high. Everyone’s bad mouthing this or that solution and, as a result, nothing of any substance has happened. Its gotten to the point where the only way we can get the right thing to happen is to shotgun it. By ‘shotgun’, I mean that we’re going to have to give the Greenies some money for their wet dream solar and wind projects.


25 posted on 05/19/2008 10:06:29 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Resolute Conservative

Well how do you think he plans to man his 700+ fantasy nuke plants?


26 posted on 05/19/2008 10:06:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“McCain calls for 700+ new nuclear plants costing $4 trillion”

Surely there’s a quantity discount or price break!


27 posted on 05/19/2008 10:07:42 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: weegee
I thought our strength was our diversity. Socialists have no tolerance for diversity of thought.

Interesting point. Socialists claim to be all for diversity, but they really want the appearance of diversity. I read once on FR someone had said that socialists allow a very narrow range of opinions but encourage vigorous debate among those choices. Basically, they want us to get all of our energy from conservation, now it is up to us to debate where to conserve.

28 posted on 05/19/2008 10:08:02 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Tailgunner Joe

McCain may just have got my vote. I’ll keep my eye on this. Energy is as serious as the GWOT, IMHO.


29 posted on 05/19/2008 10:08:22 AM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

McCain’s call for building more nuclear power plants is absolutely right. There are just over 100 nuclear plants in the US today. Yet we haven’t built a nuclear plant in a quarter century. In this case, the French are right. Having 50-100 nuclear plants -— or more -— under construction in the next few years would not only help to cut our dependency on foriegn oil, but it would put thousands of Americans to work. The US needs a realistic and forward looking energy policy, NOW!


30 posted on 05/19/2008 10:08:36 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I've always thought Mexico should have done this. Don't think there's many enviro-whackos down there. Hey Gringo. Wanna buy some cheap electricity?
31 posted on 05/19/2008 10:08:49 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: cripplecreek

That’s what I call new job creation - construction and staffing!


32 posted on 05/19/2008 10:09:00 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: kidd

I keep on looking for the part where completing a plant a month would be a bad thing. Standardize the design and get building, already.

Once the first few are built, and the bugs worked out of the production schedule, there is no reason why you couldn’t ramp up production. Lots of sites, and lots of customers, so why not?

Of course, the question is, are these to be financed by utilities (and, in turn, the customers), or are these to be financed as a government program. If it is a government program, we would be lucky to build one plant in a decade.


33 posted on 05/19/2008 10:09:05 AM PDT by gridlock (RNC.com wants you to know... It's OK to vote against Barack Obama...)
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To: massgopguy
Yes, we get eletricity from Nuclear Power Plants but only about 4% from Oil fired power plants. It’s the othe 1,100 products we get from petroleum that we need the free flow of oil to support.

Going nuclear frees up the coal and induces 'Coal to Oil' projects.

34 posted on 05/19/2008 10:09:21 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All

I am all for more nuclear power plants

now, thanks to the Dim’s environmental wing

those plants were not constructed years ago when cement and steel cost half as much as they do today

with all of Asia just now building the kind of infrastructure we have had for nearly 100 years

cement and steel - the largest material cost for a nuclear plant - are among the materials in greatest world demand

will stupid, ‘bipartisan’ McPain campaign on that knowledge, showing Dim obstructions to be the cause of the ‘energy crisis’?

NO

like idiot Bush, he wants to ‘reach across the aisle and be known as a nice guy

it will get him as far as it got GW - nowhere


35 posted on 05/19/2008 10:10:18 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: kidd

Wow.

I didn’t see this coming. He usually does something to piss off the base every monday.


36 posted on 05/19/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: Norman Bates

Too bad it’s a fantasy that he thinks we’ll buy. Face it, it isn’t going to happen and we all know it.


37 posted on 05/19/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I agree that we need as many nuke plants as possible.


38 posted on 05/19/2008 10:11:22 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Norman Bates

Too bad it’s a fantasy that he thinks we’ll buy. Face it, it isn’t going to happen and we all know it.


39 posted on 05/19/2008 10:11:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Looks like its time to buy some Westinghouse Electric stock.


40 posted on 05/19/2008 10:11:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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