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Discrimination against British soldiers in uniform to become a criminal offence (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | May 19, 2008 | MATTHEW HICKLEY

Posted on 05/19/2008 9:48:01 AM PDT by Stoat

Discrimination against British soldiers in uniform to become a criminal offence

by MATTHEW HICKLEY - More by this author » Last updated at 16:35pm on 19th May 2008

New laws will make it a criminal offence to discriminate against Britain's soldiers, sailors and airmen wearing uniform in public, under Government proposals outlined yesterday.

Courts will also hand out tougher punishments to anyone who assaults or threatens a serviceman wearing the Queen's uniform - which will become an 'aggravating factor' during sentencing.

Other measures designed to boost recognition and respect for the UK armed forces include a drive to encourage thousands more school pupils to train as military cadets, and teaching youngsters about the role and work of the military as a compulsory part of the National Curriculum.

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Brit soldier

Honour: British troops could be rembembered on a special Bank Holiday in a bid to improve how they are viewed by the public

 

The Government confirmed that a new National Armed Forces and Veterans Day will be introduced from next year, in late June, although ministers are still weighing up whether it should be a new Bank Holiday, along with more homecoming parades for units returning from war.

And all servicemen and women will be encouraged to wear military uniform in public wherever possible, to boost the visibility of Britain's rapidly-shrinking forces.

The study into National Recognition of our Armed Forces was carried out by former Conservative MP Quentin Davies at Gordon Brown's request, amid growing concern over the lack of public understanding or support for the military after years of controversial wars abroad.

(4) Last year the head of the Army General Sir Richard Dannatt warned that a lack of public appreciation risked 'sapping' the willingness of troops to serve in dangerous warzones abroad.

 

Opposition MPs broadly welcomed yesterday's proposals but claimed they would 'ring hollow' for many personnel who suffer from the lack of funding for the military, often having to live in sub-standard housing.

The report cites examples of negative attitudes to troops in uniform, including a security assistant at Harrods in London barring an Army officer wearing service dress after a Remembrance Day ceremony.

Harrods insisted it would still exclude servicemen or women wearing 'fatigues' - the combat clothing which most wear for everyday work - a rule which the report condemns as 'quite unacceptable.'

Other examples include troops returning from fighting in Afghanistan being told to change into civilian clothes before passing through Birmingham Airport, and being kept away from public areas of Edinburgh Airport.

In Peterborough, RAF personnel were banned from wearing uniform in town after incidents of verbal abuse.

This 'contrasts sharply' with American and Canada 'where members of the public greet returning troops warmly and appreciatively.'

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Senior figures in the Armed Forces fear the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have harmed the Armed Forces' reputation at home

 

The report calls for legislation making it an offence for public services or private companies to discriminate against anyone in military uniform - putting such treatment on a legal par with racial or sexual discrimination.

Armed Forces Minister Bob Ainsworth said such cases were rare, but were 'totally and utterly unacceptable', and details of the new laws were being discussed.

The package will also push for a major expansion in cadet organisations.

Currently around one in 50 schoolchildren are part of cadet groups - 130,000 in all - either in the Combined Cadet Force in schools or in the Sea Cadets, Army Cadet Force or Air Training Corps outside.

Only around 260 out of 6,400 secondary schools have CCF units - almost all in Grammar or private schools - and ministers want to 'do everything possible to encourage more Comprehensive Schools and City Academies to join up.'

The report claims the social benefits for young cadets of 'team effort, purposeful endeavour and meeting physical challenges' go far beyond military training, and cites figures showing that while one in 19 boys aged 15 to 17 were charged, cautioned or warned for a criminal offence in 2004, among cadets of the same age the figure was just one in 625.

The move is likely to be controversial, however, particularly as young cadets receive weapons training.

Last month the National Union of Teachers was criticised when members voted to ban the military from recruiting in schools.

Yesterday the NUT's acting general secretary Christine Blower claimed youngsters 'with limited job prospects are being targeted for careers in the military', and called for 'a protocol' to set limits to the MOD's involvement in schools.

Liberal Democrat defence spokesman Nick Harvey said: 'Many of these proposals are good common sense and should be welcomed.

'But we must never let pageantry obscure the hard facts about the way the current Government treats our Armed Forces.

'An Armed Forces Day is welcome, but it will ring hollow for those forces families who still have to put up with sub-standard housing.'



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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Out shopping a few weeks back .

Some bloke in one of those checked ‘Yassar Arfat’ things on his head, giving out leaflets . When I say I am proud of my country , he goes ‘If you love western civilisation so much why dont you f*** off and live in America ?’ I reply ‘If you hate your own society so much then why dont you f*** off to some fly blown muzzo sand pit ?’

I just got back to my car and put the shopping in the boot when two spikes (one of them a sergeant) stopped me and said that a Mr xxxxxx had made a complaint. Apparently I had sworn at him - which was threatening behaviour , and used racially insulting words.
They are currently sending my details to the CPS (like your District Attorney) .


21 posted on 05/20/2008 5:16:27 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: jabbermog

Sorry to hear that. Good luck with dealing with all that. That moron is too blinded by his own stupidity to understand that the country he’s lucky enough to reside in is part of western civilization.
Keep fighting the good fight and supporting western civilization, even if political correctness is trying to destroy it.


22 posted on 05/20/2008 8:33:24 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Cheers for that .

This incident happened in Sheffield , 60 miles away . Nowadays there is a sizable number of Moslem immigrants which the Govt has brought in to swell it’s voting base . Ironically that clown I mentioned earlier seemed to be a well spoken student (probably a global warming/multiculturist/bum bandit) . Sheffield police are obviously under orders to keep the local Desertshites happy ; I should have mentioned that the sergeant regarded booking me as a complete waste of time .
Dont worry I will keep it up. There are shedloads like me and they can’t lock us all up !

Take care


23 posted on 05/20/2008 9:14:08 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: jabbermog; SandRat; manc; SoldierDad; massgopguy; ElkGroveDan; weegee; Natural Law; DuncanWaring; ..

Thanks to everyone for your interest in this thread and all of your great replies. This is a one-time-only ping....I wanted to bring everyone’s attention to jabbermog’s post at #21 here. It seems that jabbermog’s neck is under the iron bootheel of the fascistic Multiculturalism Police, and I’m guessing that some friendly FReepers’ words of encouragement might be appreciated during this difficult time.

My prayers go out to you jabbermog and I hope that all of this will be resolved quickly and without your being fined or jailed for some sort of insane “racist” or “hate speech” offense.

Full steam ahead and may God Bless and Protect you.


24 posted on 05/20/2008 4:03:26 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: jabbermog

Um, could you not file a counter complaint against this person? Seems to me that he engaged in the behavior he is accusing you of. In fact, it was he who instigated this exchange (probably for the purpose of goading you into your response in order to file a complaint).


25 posted on 05/20/2008 7:57:18 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: SoldierDad

Yes your right - that is what I have been advised to do .
The fact that this kid thrust a leaflet in my face and then started blabbering when I tried to walk round him shows that HE approached ME first .
My solicitor , a longtime family friend , thinks that the police in Sheffield have got to appear to be even-handed , and that they will probably forget the whole thing .


26 posted on 05/21/2008 1:05:24 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: SoldierDad

Yes your right - that is what I have been advised to do .
The fact that this kid thrust a leaflet in my face and then started blabbering when I tried to walk round him shows that HE approached ME first .
My solicitor , a longtime family friend , thinks that the police in Sheffield have got to appear to be even-handed , and that they will probably forget the whole thing .


27 posted on 05/21/2008 1:06:14 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: Stoat

Much appreciated !

The way I see it - if all the multicultural, anti-western, anti-American mob hate you must prove that there’s not a lot wrong with you !

All the best .


28 posted on 05/21/2008 5:55:36 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: Stoat

Much appreciated !

The way I see it - if all the multicultural, anti-western, anti-American mob hate you must prove that there’s not a lot wrong with you !

All the best .


29 posted on 05/21/2008 5:56:09 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: jabbermog

Our bizzies are useless. The CPS is a defunct system.

Is this what our coppers are resorting to? Family member who served in the force have long said that its not what it used to be.

Just take your tale to the media. Build up enough of a fuss around the case, there will be no shortage of men supporting you.


30 posted on 05/21/2008 6:00:41 AM PDT by Mercia
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To: jabbermog

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers with the hope that this matter will be settled quickly and to your advantage.


31 posted on 05/21/2008 8:35:19 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Mercia

Don’t worry , I emailed Jack Billen of the Grimsby Evening Telegraph and the Lincolnshire Echo’s desk last Monday .


32 posted on 05/21/2008 8:48:43 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: Stoat

Even for Muslim perps?


33 posted on 05/21/2008 8:52:30 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SoldierDad

Many Thanks.

This incident happened 60 miles from where I live . This is a rural area and fortunately Muzzos are about as welcome here as a Bostonian at a Confederate Army barbeque !


34 posted on 05/21/2008 9:16:36 AM PDT by jabbermog (24 Hour drinking - it's not enough)
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To: jabbermog
I'm sure you are referring to the late 1800’s as opposed to now with respect to that barbecue. It seems that Bostonians and people living in the south today are much more cozier than they once were.
35 posted on 05/21/2008 9:31:55 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: jabbermog

it’s got really bad hey mate
I left because of things like that and did go to America,

Hope all goes well mate and everything is sorted in the end.

Good for you sticking up for yourself.

I used to go to the trafford centre(shopping centre) and the amount of muslims there was unbelievable.
They had a prayer room so me being me I decided to go in there and say some prayers, , well loads of muslims came in wanting me out as they wanted to do their 5 times a day prayer.
I stayed for about an hour,(the wife was shopping anyway so I had time to kill)

I got asked to leave etc and I said no thid place is for everyone etc etc.
There was nothing they could do and it really pissed them off.

As for the uniform I was bever allowed to wear mine outside of the barracks due to the threat of the IRA at that time but even so the locals hated us just bieng there, especially the men.

Of course they loved us at first when we first come back from war but that quickly wore off


36 posted on 05/21/2008 3:20:19 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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To: manc

My incident happened at the Meadowhall Shopping Centre in Sheffield .

Again a lot of Muzzoes there (the women, dressed like the wraiths in Lord of the Rings ) walking behind the blokes .

Funny , you would have thought shopping centres were part of the dirty decadent western culture - apparently not .


37 posted on 05/22/2008 1:27:10 AM PDT by jabbermog (24 Hour drinking - it's not enough)
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To: jabbermog

there’s cases of Muslims women saying they won’t do certain work because it means touching bacon etc
at an airport the taxis drivers being Muslim said they would not pick up people with bacon or beer with them
at a supermarket called target a Muslim woman all of a sudden says she won’t cash people out if they have bacon

and yet go into a corner shop owned by a Muslim Pakistani and they sell bacon

in Luton the Muslims say that police dogs should not come into their house as dogs are dirty bla bla

To think the liberal do gooders let them get away with their tripe

course you see dogs owned by the Saudi royal family, they are owned in Afghanistan and Iraq

In England they said the Muslims that they should not pay interest on their loans and house loans as it is forbidden in the koran

Yet not one Muslims can find that passage in the book.
Like a book wrote hundreds of years ago says hey no interest on your mortgage

seems Muslims in the west, especially France, britain and America pick and choose their laws for their religion


38 posted on 05/22/2008 1:51:54 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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To: manc

As a Mancky living over in the States , you may have missed this gem from your old stamping ground .

Somewhere around Altrincham a Moslem ‘Information’ centre opened round the corner of a parish church that has been there since the 14th Century . Three days a week the choir practice ; a couple of weeks ago the Muzzoes approached the churchwarden and asked him if the choir could practice in the evening , as it was putting them of their 5 - times a day prayers . The churchwarden refused , so the imam complained to the local council . Guess which place of worship has now got to make alternative arrangements ?
They interviewed shoppers in the town centre on Sky News ; one bloke said he had been a leftist most of his life but this now tempted him to vote BNP .


39 posted on 05/23/2008 1:46:48 AM PDT by jabbermog (24 Hour drinking - it's not enough)
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To: jabbermog

I did miss that of course I don’t expect to read such info from the BBC and the guardian etc etc

could you please keep me informed of other such disgusting acts by the local council etc

I heard a couple of years ago , though forgot where , maybe leeds or oldham, that a church used their bells on a sunday morning, well the local muslims complained it woke them up.

well a year later the mosque has 5 times a day call to prayer on their loud speakers

so a few Christians complained

guess what they were told to basically do one, the muslims have every right

When I got home least year back to little hulton salford I never saw any muslims as they haven’t dared to go there yet but the local council had moved about 50 africans in ,

guess what

the council, well tax payer is paying their rent, they got 3 grand for a car, they drive with no license, they basically live rent free, bills free

my next door neighbour etc said they had voted labour all their lives but if the BNP was in the area they would vote for them instead but for sure they will never vote labour again

seems people are waking up but I just hope it’s not too late


40 posted on 05/23/2008 10:16:36 AM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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