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To: cake_crumb
The Base hates Mexicans

Well I'm not going to let this go by without an argument.

Just who the hell is this "Base" you are accusing of hating Mexicans? I daresay that many folks posting in ernest and passion on this thread are part of this "Base" that you dismiss with such careless and thoughtless words.

I went back and read the thread to which you reply with this nonsense and it was a dialogue about Bush's and his attempts to promote drilling of our own oil between Rodguy and Bray.

I agree with both of the posters in that Bray wanted Bush to continue the effort while RG lamented Bush was too far gone in lame duck status.

Then YOU, Mr or Mrs. Cake Crumb, come on with that comment about "The Base" hating Mexicans and just who is this hateful BASE?

US?

Are we this Mexican-hating Base us awful people who really, really resent illegal immigrants invading our country which is nowhere near the same thing as "hating Mexicans".

I await your explanation. Because to dismiss those of us who want a coherent and logical immigration policy as Mexican haters is just plain damn mean.

Not to mention I never, ever heard of dipping chicken pieces in tomato sauce before covering in flour before frying but I'll allow as it might be a local thing.

330 posted on 05/18/2008 1:44:34 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fishtalk
Remember fish, if you have an opinion,even off topic, you are automatically a racist the DBM told me so. Glad you are feeling better! You really went through some tough stuff there.
334 posted on 05/18/2008 2:32:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Fishtalk
Dipping chicken in tomato sauce is pretty much the same as soaking it in a tomato based marinade ~ the difference here is in the words, not the idea.

Now, the only way to look at the Mexican thing is that so many of them have illegally moved here that any attempt to increase legal immigration to pick up the supply of newly minted PhDs from Asia we need is doomed to fail.

Not only do the Mexicans not increase productivity in the high tech sectors, their presence deprives us of acquiring those who can do so.

They have to be sent back home so that our industrial and agricultural sectors have an incentive to develop more automation. They also have to be sent back home to make room for the guys who can develop more automation.

It's a very simple equation. Frankly I am surprised that supposedly smart guys in the NAM, Chamber of Commerce, Farm Bureau Co-op, and other major institutions representing productivity seem unable to understand it ~ unless, of course, their motive is simply to have a large number of cheap lawn mowing guys and inexpensive bed warmers around.

340 posted on 05/18/2008 3:35:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fishtalk; cake_crumb
Cake_crumb, unless I'm misremembering or confusing you with someone else, I think I usually like your posts, but I've gotta agree with Fishtalk's response:

Are we this Mexican-hating Base us awful people who really, really resent illegal immigrants invading our country which is nowhere near the same thing as "hating Mexicans". I await your explanation. Because to dismiss those of us who want a coherent and logical immigration policy as Mexican haters is just plain damn mean.

I'm certainly as much against CFI/Amnesty as anybody here, but it has nothing to do with hating Mexicans. If they come in the right way, not cutting in front of others who played by the rules, and if they're coming in because they want to join America and Americans as opposed to ousting us because they think USA is theirs--then I'm delighted to welcome them.

There are plenty of people who come for the money and are willing to work hard for it, but who also are putting ERs out of business and signing on for benefits... I've seen plenty of both, sometimes in the same person. Who pays?

I think what worries me the most is that many are very poorly educated and--more importantly--totally unaware of what America was created to be, used to be, and can be again. The Constitution is the engine of our success (financially, freedom-wise, etc.) over centuries and is being undermined by our domestic enemies. Yes, I know our own young are being dumbed down in our public propaganda factories--that's another facet of the same problem.

But, bringing in millions of people who have no idea of what we were (and still are pretty much) and who have no interest in learning it let alone our language and who will be bribed with more and more benefits for their uninformed votes will literally destroy what's left of the country. Yes, I know I'm describing more and more natural born Americans, too--again another facet of the same problem, but pull in another 12 million socialist votes (some say as high as 50 million) and the Republic is gone.

341 posted on 05/18/2008 3:41:04 PM PDT by Sal (The Lyin' sob of the Senate is recovering.)
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