Posted on 05/18/2008 12:35:02 AM PDT by ansel12
Pretty much anything that comes out of the Philly media is garbage, no matter what this woman has to say, the BSA will be ejected from their HQ of 70 years because the Philly City council welched on their lease due to their desire and indeed Constitutional Right to exclude Gay Scoutmasters from holding positions in the Organization.
For Me, Philly is CA East, I have just about everything that comes out of that town on a “pay no mind list”
“So it wasn’t cheating. It was prophecy....oo yeah baby...WTF?”
I have to know what that means before I can respond to it.
They love their booty call.
True, but on the other hand, if my wife had a few more husbands, maybe I’d get more sleep at night and only have to mow the lawn every 3rd time etc. I do see an upside.
I read a lot of your short posting history.
How about speaking English? What do you mean?
I strongly recommend you visit the Utah Attorney General's web page on polygamy HERE to learn some of the reasons. You will find the AG's Primer on polygamy (there is a link to the pdf document at the bottom of the first paragraph) with the understanding it is emotionally disturbing.
There is an excellent video (approximately 90 minutes long) on polygamy HERE. It is well worth the watch in my opinion. (Incidentally, the sponsor provides copies of the DVD without charge to LDS members)
Who loves their booty calls?
Yep.
Polygamy is essentially slavery. The early Hebrews did all sorts of things that we wouldn’t do now, and in fact God educated them away from these things as He gradually built His Chosen People. The Old Testament is essentially the story of this, and it is clear that polygamy was one of the things that God led the Jews away from.
Few people understand how much Christianity has done for women. Coming into cultures where women were part of a herd owned by the more powerful men (because polygamy also means that there are some less powerful men who will never have a chance to marry), Christianity freed them essentially by treating them as individuals who had free will, an independent existence, and who deserved to love and be loved individually, as one woman by one man, bringing the beautiful imagery of the Old Testament into these brutal cultures.
This has completely transformed the lives of women, who because they are physically weaker and also bound to their children do not have the power in a primitive culture to resist polygamy/slavery without the support of the different world-view that is embodied in the Gospels. It’s interesting that all rejections of Christianity immediately go back to a primitive tribal culture. This includes Islam and Mormonism, the private “revelations” of individual wackos who essentially dumped Christianity and Judaism to legitimize their personal desires - for women, wealth, or conquest - in a faux version of the Old Testament. This means that the power of the group’s leader is all-controlling, decisions are made by a select few as the result of secret visions, slavery is practiced, including the enslavement of women in polygamy, blood fueds resume, and essentially the culture is a complete rejection of the individual-based, natural law infused culture brought by Christianity as it extended God’s message to the Jews to include the Gentiles as well.
Many of the things that the Jews were weaned away from would fall nowadays under the catchall expression, "values of the marketplace". Sometimes the markets are not your friend.
John Bunyan referred to worldly values frequently in his Pilgrim's Progress as impediments to the pilgrim. Worldliness was a particular concern of Reformation-era English Protestants.
No
problem is twofold - they werent marrying adults - Joseph Smith himself married 14 yr old Helen Marr Kimball, and she only accepted after he tied her affirmation to the claim by Smith that her immediate family would gain entrance to Heaven if she did so.
He's loosely saying that polygamy is a lesser evil than what the liberal socialist are doing to de-masculate modern man in liberal society. The critical point being in the liberal's world men are no longer men and women are no longer women. In a polygamist view, the women are chattle, but still play the role of women. The men are men (except for the poor fellows who will never know wedded bliss due to the shortage of women. Another evil unto itself, IMHO. Think China...)
Personally, I'd have to disagree with the concept of polygamy because it corrupts the vision I have of the American Christian Family.
That being said, in a situation where polygamy is permitted, I love my wife and care for her feelings too much to throw away the years of devotion to take another woman to bed as wife. It's something sacred and a responsibility before God to me. I didn't just meet my wife, I asked God for her and she was delivered.
At some point the concept of "don't tug on Superman's cape" overwhelms the thoughtful man. ; )
Not a flame, folks, just an opposing opinion. : ) Cheers, guys!
That’s a good way of putting it - these are “values of the marketplace” in the sense that they are the “values” of a world where material power is all-important and the person who happens to hold it can do whatever he wants. Perhaps we could say that worldliness is the rejection of the world as planned by God (which was revealed to the Jews and then to the Gentiles) and its replacement by a world that is subject to the whims of the powerful (a tribe, its leader, men in the tribe, etc.), or of the powerful individual who seeks to assert his domination rather than living as God calls him to live.
You are saying that Joseph Smith had sex with a kid. BFD a cult is a cult, of course some one did something with someone or else it would not ve a cult.
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