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Niny Pity Party (Mark Steyn Whack's Left's Appeasement Mindset Alert)
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzY5NWNlN2YzMmQxMDFmZGIwYTY2MTViNTUyZDg2OTA= ^ | 5/17/2008 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/17/2008 5:36:28 AM PDT by goldstategop

‘That’s enough. That — that’s a show of disrespect to me.”

That was Barack Obama, a couple of weeks back, explaining why he was casting the Reverend Jeremiah Wright into outer darkness. It’s one thing to wallow in “adolescent grandiosity” (as Scott Johnson of “Powerline” called it) when it’s a family dispute between you and your pastor of 20 years. It’s quite another to do so when it’s the 60th-anniversary celebrations of one of America’s closest allies.

Last week, President Bush was in Israel and gave a speech to the Knesset. Its perspective was summed up by his closing anecdote — a departing British officer in May 1948 handing the iron bar to the Zion Gate to a trembling rabbi and telling him it was the first time in 18 centuries that a key to one of the gates to the Old City of Jerusalem was in the hands of a Jew. In other words, it was a big-picture speech, referencing the Holocaust, the pogroms, Masada — and the challenges that lie ahead. Senator Obama was not mentioned in the text. No Democrat was mentioned, save for President Truman, in the context of his recognition of the new State of Israel when it was a mere 11 minutes old.

Nonetheless, Barack Obama decided that the President’s speech was really about him, and he didn’t care for it. He didn’t put it quite as bluntly as he did with the Reverend Wright, but the message was the same: “That’s enough. That’s a show of disrespect to me.” And, taking their cue from the soon-to-be nominee’s weirdly petty narcissism, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden, and co. piled on to deplore Bush’s outrageous, unacceptable, unpresidential, outrageously unacceptable, and unacceptably unpresidential behavior.

Honestly. What a bunch of self-absorbed ninnies. Here’s what the president said: “Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

It says something for Democrat touchiness that the minute a guy makes a generalized observation about folks who appease terrorists and dictators the Dems assume: Hey, they’re talking about me. Actually, he wasn’t — or, to be more precise, he wasn’t talking only about you. Yes, there are plenty of Democrats who are in favor of negotiating with our enemies, and a few Republicans, too — President Bush’s pal James Baker, whose Iraq Study Group was full of proposals to barter with Iran and Syria and everybody else. But that general line is also taken by at least three of Tony Blair’s former cabinet ministers and his senior policy adviser, and by the leader of Canada’s New Democratic party, and by a whole bunch of bigshot Europeans. It’s not a Democrat-election policy, it’s an entire worldview. Even Barack Obama can’t be so vain as to think his fly-me-to-[insert name of enemy here] concept is an original idea.

Increasingly, the Western world has attitudes rather than policies. It’s one thing to talk as a means to an end. But these days, for most midlevel powers, talks are the end, talks without end. Because that’s what civilized nations like doing — chit-chatting, shooting the breeze, having tea and crumpets, talking talking talking. Uncivilized nations like torturing dissidents, killing civilians, bombing villages, doing doing doing. It’s easier to get the doers to pass themselves off as talkers then to get the talkers to rouse themselves to do anything. And, as the Iranians understand, talks provide a splendid cover for getting on with anything you want to do. If, say, you want to get on with your nuclear program relatively undisturbed, the easiest way to do it is to enter years of endless talks with the Europeans over said nuclear program. That’s why that Hamas honcho endorsed Obama: They know he’s their best shot at getting a European foreign minister installed as president of the United States.

Mo Mowlam was Britain’s Northern Ireland secretary and oversaw the process by which the IRA’s Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness became Ministers of a Crown they decline to recognize. By 2004, she was calling for Osama bin Laden to be invited to “the negotiating table,” having concluded he was no different from Adams: Stern fellow, lots of blood on his hands, but no sense getting on your high horse about all that; let’s find out what he wants and give him part of it. In his 2002 letter to the United States, bin Laden has a lot of grievances, from America’s refusal to implement sharia to Jew-controlled usury to the lack of punishment for “President Clinton’s immoral acts.” Like Barack Obama’s pastor, bin Laden shares the view that AIDS is a “Satanic American invention.” Obviously, there are items on the agenda that the free world can never concede on — “President Clinton’s immoral acts” — but who’s to say most of the rest isn’t worth chewing over?

This will be the fault line in the post-Bush war debate over the next few years. Are the political ambitions of the broader jihad totalitarian, genocidal, millenarian — in a word, nuts? Or are they negotiable? President Bush knows where he stands. Just before the words that Barack Obama took umbrage at, he said: “There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It’s natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemnly responsibility to take these words seriously.”

Here are some words of Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah: “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.”

Are his actions consistent with those words? Amazingly so. So too are those of Hezbollah’s patrons in Tehran.

President Reagan talked with the Soviets while pushing ahead with the deployment of Cruise and Pershing missiles in Europe. He spoke softly — after getting himself a bigger stick. Sen. Obama is proposing to reward a man who pledges to wipe Israel off the map with a presidential photo-op to which he will bring not even a twig. No wonder he’s so twitchy about it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; appeasement; conservatism; democraticparty; freedom; iran; israel; jeremiahwright; leftism; marksteyn; narcissism; nationalreview; ninnies; obama; presbushknesset08; presidentbush; tyranny
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The media is really brazen on this one. I’ve lost count how many times a reporter or commentator said the President attacked Obama.

BUMP! Propagandists covering for their offended creation/messiah.

21 posted on 05/17/2008 6:24:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Eurale
Money quote:

“Here are some words of Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah: “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.”

Words, just words BUMP!

WORDS & DEEDS BUMP!

22 posted on 05/17/2008 6:26:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: goldstategop; Rummyfan; kellynla; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; ...
Pinging the NEW Mark Steyn Ping List.



On or off, FReepmail  or Ping me.

Cheers,

knewshound

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23 posted on 05/17/2008 6:30:22 AM PDT by knews_hound (Democrats dilemma:Vote for a Nut with 2 boobs or a Boob with 2 nuts)
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To: goldstategop
It says something for Democrat touchiness that the minute a guy makes a generalized observation about folks who appease terrorists and dictators the Dems assume: Hey, they’re talking about me.

Actually, the piling on that took place by the Dems over the President's generalized observation clearly foreshadows the tone and timbre of the upcoming fight between Obama and McCain.

On a level playing field, McCain might have a chance. But whenever he opens his mouth, Obama and Co. will do what they did this past week.

They are starting even now. Listen for Obama saying words like, "My opponent is going to say" or "Mr. McCain will say".
I have heard him say these words when he was speaking about the furor over Reverend Wright. McCain never said a word. Yet the more impressionable voters who hear Obama say such things will have it stuck in their head that McCain is a racist. They will attempt to paint anyone who opposes or speaks out against Obama as a racist. Sit back and watch the show. It's going to get ugly. Even without Hillary in the race.

24 posted on 05/17/2008 6:37:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: Gumdrop
Here's one of my faves:


25 posted on 05/17/2008 6:45:27 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The media is really brazen on this one. I’ve lost count how many times a reporter or commentator said the President attacked Obama.

The Magic Negro must have thighs of steel from walking around with those yapping MSNBC mutts (Abrams, Matthews, and Olbermann-boy) trying to out leg-hump one another on the Messiah.

26 posted on 05/17/2008 6:50:15 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: kjo
Just saw a segment on the TODAY show while surfing. NBC “reporter” interviewed a black writer for the WaPo editorial page...guess what...?

Obama gets as “A” for his response to this “attack” from the Bush White House. Implication is...this was a disgraceful use of the President’s offices in a political campaign...

No one else was interviewed...no other point of view allowed...the casual TV watcher would believe that Obama was unfairly attacked and stood his ground in a way that was outstanding...

this is what passed for tv “news” today.

Propagandists at work, marveling at their creation.

27 posted on 05/17/2008 6:50:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Great observation. Thanks. Deceivers doing what they do best.


28 posted on 05/17/2008 6:53:23 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Gumdrop

When you think about the level of criticism that ANY politician, regardless of party or affiliation, takes as a matter of course, Obama seems even more pathetic.

Look back on routine day-to-day “attacks” that the Clintons (both of them), President Bush, McCain, Pelosi...any of them...face and then compare with the veiled comments that President Bush made and you realize what a crybaby Obama and his cult are.


29 posted on 05/17/2008 6:54:20 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: goldstategop
President Bush didn't mention any Democrat in his address. But it still stuck a nerve. If these people aren't doing what the President describes, they're shrug it off. But they don't and that's very revealing about their inner psychological landscape.

Barack cleverly presented himself as a victim. The propagandists joyously amplified.

30 posted on 05/17/2008 6:57:14 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: kjo

Get used to it. It’s going to be a Obama lovefest until election day. Like you said, it’s already started. You’d think Bush is the most hated person in the world..the worst person ever to be elected to any office...they need to do that in order to keep saying “BUSH’S THIRD TERM.”

THEY ARE ALL IN IN TOGETHER.


31 posted on 05/17/2008 7:02:09 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Stepan12

Obama may have a messiah complex, but I refer to him as the Obama Lama. Since the elistist, secular progressive gang adores the Dalai Lama almost as much as Barry Obama, the moniker ‘Obama Lama’ seems quite appropriate.


32 posted on 05/17/2008 7:06:45 AM PDT by Irish Queen (Nevada Gal)
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To: goldstategop
“That's a show of disrespect to me” is the formal way of saying “dissing me” which tends to be an answer that is supposed to end all discussion and often leads to physical confrontation. I find that Obama’s use of that phrase is very telling in and of itself. I also find it very alarming. It shows great immaturity and I shudder to think that this man could be given the responsibility of the Oval Office.
33 posted on 05/17/2008 7:13:57 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: goldstategop

34 posted on 05/17/2008 7:15:46 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: goldstategop
Obama decided that the President’s speech was really about him... “That’s enough. That’s a show of disrespect to me.”

"If you throw a rock over a fence, it's the hit dog that hollers."
~Mike Huckabee~

And, taking their cue from the soon-to-be nominee’s weirdly petty narcissism, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden, and co. piled on..."

Soundslike a wholelotta Hit Dogs ahollering over that fence... Musta been quite a rock Bush tossed over there attem.

35 posted on 05/17/2008 7:31:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Hildy
Get used to it. It’s going to be a Obama lovefest until election day.

It's like American Idol Runs for President. If he ever whips out a guitar and starts playing, we are toast.

36 posted on 05/17/2008 8:02:13 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: kjo
An "A". No, Obama's response is an "F".

Just like his speech on "race" 2 months ago in response to the hateful Rev. Wright, this retort is an "F". Now if you recall at the time, the media declared Obama's race speech to be amazing and compared him to Abraham Lincoln. The liberal media said the Wright issue was once and for all put behind us.

All lies.

So now its 2 months later and the issue has not gone to rest. He now appears distrustful to "white voters" and is losing swing states in the primaries.

37 posted on 05/17/2008 8:17:40 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: xzins

“They will have full complicity of the media, to include Fox.”

Why then have I seen so many FoxNews people gouging Obama over this? I have heard several of Fox people bring up the fact that Obama’s name was never even mentioned.


38 posted on 05/17/2008 8:28:04 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: goldstategop; knews_hound
Increasingly, the Western world has attitudes rather than policies.

Once again, Mark Steyn is doing the work that American MSM journalists won't. I will alwasys deeply regret that I missed him speak last fall at Hillsdale. Next time, for sure!

Thanks for the post, goldstategop. Thanks for the ping, knews_hound.

39 posted on 05/17/2008 8:41:43 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
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To: L98Fiero

Are they or are they giving it LOTS of air time.

The hope of the Obama camp is to confront any gaffe or problem with a diversion.....in this instance, manufactured outrage that consumes air time.


40 posted on 05/17/2008 8:43:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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