Posted on 05/16/2008 9:24:13 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
All week long, you and I have been blasting the bereft Beltway GOP leadership for their empty sloganeering and Obama-esque change obsession.
Now, the NRCC is hearing it directly on its website. Reader Fritz e-mails that the comments section in the NRCC blog post by chairman Tom Cole is sizzling hot with aggravated grass-roots conservative feedback.
Go check it out. A sample:
This is not the message I am looking to support. The message of the Replican Part should be fundumentally different than the Democrats. We don’t need to “fix” the government. We need the Federal Government to do wnat it is supposed to - protect our freedom. It should not try to be eveyones “Daddy” Healthcare is not the Federal Governments responsibility. If my new my situation, you might take these comments more seriously. I am not some rich guy who wants to pay less taxes and who can afford to pay for the high prices of healthcare. I just know that government, in general, is inefficiant and wasteful and would like to see less governement programs instead of more.
Posted: Steve Bryant on May 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Republicians think the way to Win is to Out “Liberal” the Liberals! McCain will be defeated by his views and disregard of Values. Obama will win. If we put up with Jimmy Carter for 4 years….Let Obama and the Dem’s take all the Credit for DESTRUCTION that will follow.I will either not vote or vote for Ron Paul. NO McCain.
Posted: Greatdanes on May 16, 2008 at 1:07 PM
PLEASE….you are kidding??!! John McCain is the republican candidate for President. So, which LIBERAL should I vote for. Let’s see OBAMA(Marxist), CLINTON(Marxist), MCCAIN(Open border/amnesty liberal). I have changed my party affiliation to independent. I will not vote for anyone who says one thing during the primary and when they think they have the nomination locked up, tell how they truly feel. John McCain “DIDN’T GET IT” after-all.
So if the RNCC is going to support this liberal RINO, then you and are at odds from here on out. No more money, no more support.
Posted: Terry on May 16, 2008 at 1:08 PM
No conservative American gets up in the morning looking for a government handout. They go to work and support their families. I have 2 questions for you. When everyone is collecting who will be paying? Why are we not using the resources for energy here in America that God gave us? STOP BEING RINOS. Either LEAD,FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.
Posted: Maureen McInerney on May 16, 2008 at 1:15 PM
All you guys have shown us is how to loose. The Republicans had the Congress and the Presidency and you debated flag burning! Where is our energy policy? Why are we burning our food supplies? Where is the debate on “global warming”? I can’t support you, you all need to go.
Posted: 19852 on May 16, 2008 at 1:16 PM
It’s rather evident, the Real Republicans are telling you the GOP, the RINO’s are in charge, they are no better than the libs and their values are not those of conservatives. We want the Republican platform adhered to and the speeches to reflect our values as Republicans, not fence sitting RINO ways.
Real Republicans do not have barb wire rash.
Posted: ONTIME on May 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Your message sounds like more big government. I am conservative and want a conservative message. I want to support conservative candidates. The three congressional seats that the democrats just won were won by democrats that had a conservative message. Republicans have lost their way. The party has gone back to the good old boy party of elite country club moderates. That is not the way to win elections or raise money. I will certainly read your e-mails but will not support any candidate that does not espouse a conservtive agenda. I hope the party will adopt that philosophy and then carry through.
Posted: Lynda Shackelford on May 16, 2008 at 1:22 PM
…I’ve got a Republican Solution for you: Tighten the belt or lose the pants. And here’s a Positive Agenda Item for you: I Positively DO NOT need a Nanny and am tired of you thinking that I do.
Here’s a thought: Why don’t you figure out what you stand for? You’re starting to sound like you’re falling for anything. I won’t be following you there.
Posted: Colleen on May 16, 2008 at 1:31 PM
…I’m sorry, but there is no way I can/will contribute until I hear the Republican party taking on the fight against the global warming HOAX, drilling in ANWAR, and absolutely protecting our borders against illeagal immigrants. As an example of what I would like to hear, every Republican senator should have jumped on Dick Durbin’s comment “we can’t drill for lower prices” after the amendment to drill in Anwar was defeated. In the circumstances we find ourselves, that is one of the most stupid comments I have ever heard from any politician. To the best of my knowledge, the laws of supply and demand have not been overturned by the liberal judges…yet.
Just one example of many that could turn the party around.
Posted: Rod on May 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM
I’m a middle-class conservative business owner who is still outraged that the GOP leadership in this country decided to make medications part of the entitlements available for all medicare recipients.
I’ve reached that golden age when I am eligible for medicare myself. A lot of us can and should pay for our own prescriptions. For those that are unable to pay, there is a place for this largesse.
Since the government got in the business, the price of my meds has increased 30% across the board. I live on the Canadian border and have friends and family on both sides of the border. Heaven protect us from the kind of “free” healthcare they must endure.
When has the government ever done anything as cheaply and efficiently as the free market?
I come from 3 generations of straight ticket Democrats. Jimmy Carter was the last time I voted for a democratic candidate.
I doubt I’ll be able to stomach voting for McCain unless he gives me some solid reasons why I should. His “reaching across the aisle” only demonstrates a big lack of judgment.
Celeste Colson May 16,2008 12:51 CDT
Posted: Celeste Colson on May 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM
So let me get this straight - I have a choice between McCain or Hillary or Obama? Did I just say I have a choice? I think I just had a 52 yr-old brain cramp. I do not vote for RINOs. None of these 3 are qualified to run this country. If the Repubs are not different than the Demoncrats then what is the use? We speak with our votes - we vote for someone else. Vote for a spoiler? No, we vote our conscience. If the MSM or the NRCC want to consider them a spoiler - so be it. Get a clue already!. Abandoning conservatism means no money, no support, no vote from me.
Posted: PEPPER on May 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM
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The LOTUS blog is selling a fitting t-shirt for the times.
Agreed. I can never watch Tony Soprano and his gang without seeing the RNC leadership...only they're not as honest as Tony and his gang.
You mean they're a lot like the Scottish nobility in Braveheart? Duplicitous, cowardly, effeminate, self-seeking?
Here in Oregon we have the only “Republican” Senator on the left coast... Wellll, he has an “R” by his name anyhow. I was asked to give money to his campaign awhile back and I declined. I cited his RINO record and the fact that he doesn’t meet with ordinary folks like the Dem Wyden does. Instead, he hob-nobs with CEOs and corporate Presidents. To me, that’s a sure sign he’s not my representative. He has a Republican challenger this time around and I voted for change.
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding!
We have a winner here folks! And he's nailed the current crop of Party leaders for the vacant suits they are.
And to think, that there are those out there who still insist we should vote the lesser of two evils.
I suggest we call off the election, save our government money, and declare Obama the winner! Because even if McLame managed to squeak by him( and he wont), how differently would he govern?
A Rush would say, I am exposing absurdity by being absurd.
No, I dont work for NRCC, I am like many of you, unhappy enough with NRCC to stop contributing, so there is much irony with the loaded questions.
I am giving more to this group these days:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121020675183775497.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
... so there is more than enough irony in pegging me (a Club for Growth guy) as a RINO supporter.
I am not even in disagreement with the *constructive* criticism that the Republicans in Congress have to get back to grassroots conservative values and agenda to get back in the game. My concern was the celebration of Republican woes, the over-the-top attacks on Republicans (as if they have done nothing good, when in fact they have done much that is praiseworthy0 and the observation that a Democrat sweep in November would be a disaster for conservatives, so we should not be welcoming such woes.
the phrase ‘beating a man when he’s down’ come to mind.
“Although given the context, the setting, the topic, and the flavor of the evasion, one does tend to wonder why you refuse to answer it. “
Because it was rhetorical silliness. No I am not in NRCC.
And btw, when did you stop beating your wife?
“Some obvious possibilities leap to mind, which I shall leave as an exercise for the reader.”
You would do better to focus your imagination on how to help elect your local and state conservative Republican candidates.
Check my tagline. It’s a longshot, but the only plan that we have to save USA.
Permission granted.
Additions or amendments to the “Conservative Promise to America” is welcome.
Upon further thought, it looks like there are a few key themes
- Energy Independence
- Limited government & lower, fairer taxes
- Accountable Government
- Rule of Law
- Secure borders and end illegal immigration
- End the culture of pork, corruption and earmarks
- Win the war on terror
- protect families
- cheaper health care through free markets
- science not hype on global warming
1) Drilling for domestic oil i.e. ANWR, Bakken Formation (ND), and off shore.
2) Support nuclear power plant, fast track utilities plans to build nuclear plants.
3) Forget about ethanol
4) Pass legislation to stop the boutique gas formulations.
5) Protect our 2nd ammendment rights for all firearms. Even the lowly 6-shooter is a semi-auto.
6) We don’t need a nanny. Government is meant to protect our freedoms. Not restrict them. McCain is wrong on campaign finance reform.
7) Protect our borders. Stop illegal immigration NOW. Reform legal immigration, friends who have immigrated have to hire high powered lawyers... This should not be necessary.
8) Pass legislation to build a natural gas pipeline from the north slope to the US or to Canada.
9) Forget about cap-and-trade on carbon. It is a hoax get over it.
10) DEMAND A VOTE ON MAKING BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENT. FIGHT THE DEMOCRATS ON TAXES 24/7.
11) FIGHT THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY 24/7 ON GWOT.
12) FIGHT THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY 24/7 ON THEIR OVER-SPENDING AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN GOVT.
13) FIGHT THE DEM MAJORITY ON TORT REFORM
14) END USELESS BOONDOGGLES AND ZERO OUT EARMARKS AND PORK.
“I think most of us agree with you on this list nearly 100%.”
Good, lets stick to that common ground and build on it.
“People are angry with Republicans because we gave them all the levers of power in DC and they did little or none of the list ...”
More could have been done, but as I’ve said in previous posts, we throw the baby out with the bathwater. 80-90% of the Republicans support most or all of the conservative agenda.
“The saddest thing is that the Republican leaders seem to have “learned” from their drubbing in 2006 that they need to make a hard left turn” .. i dont see that at all,
” instead of realizing that they were turned out of office because they didn’t follow Republican/conservative ideals. “
And I am pointing out that an Obama leftwing sweep and enlarged Democrat congressional majority will move the entire country massively to the left, and so conservative desires to move the GOP to the right would get washed away in that left-liberal Tsunami.
You may be right -- but I have no confidence whatsoever that what WILL "happen with McCain" won't be worse than "the above" by several orders of magnitude.
In a nutshell, if McCain is going to get my vote, it will have to be by virtue of fraudulently filing for an absentee ballot in my name, because NWIH am I going to vote for that democrat in drag (have we already forgotten that the ONLY reason the turncoat didn't join the democrat party outright is because Jeffords stole his thunder, thereby neutering any advantage he'd have gained by being THE knife in the conservative back?)
I am not going to vote for a stealth democrat. I am not going to vote for a mentally unhinged Manchurian Candidate. I am not going to vote for a slimy scumbag who makes a sport of stabbing MY people -- conservatives -- in the back, and then rubbing our face in his proclivity for the "reach-ar... across" maneuver.
The ONLY reason I can find for voting for that piece of work is because there is an "R of convenience" after his name, and frankly, I am no longer a "party line voter." ("I gave most of my adult life to the Republican Party, and all I have to show for it is this stupid broken glass in my knees.")
My purpose in life is NOT "to see that Republicans are the ones cracking the whip over my head, sucking the contents out of my wallet, pissing in my face and telling me I'm thirsty, and then calling me an ingrate when I don't THANK them for it all.
I hope I've made myself clear; and while I am not wont to think myself "spokesman for the masses," I do believe that my sentiments are representative of those of MANY others who have had it up to HERE with the "hey, where are they gonna go anyway?" treatment.
I'll tell you "where I'm gonna go" -- I'm gonna go HOME -- on election day. Or rather, I'm gonna STAY home.
I hope the fatcats have enjoyed all the years of free ride they got out of me, and those like me. The Abused Wife Syndrome: RIP, 2008.
It is up to over 1,500 posts as I write this, and golly, those are some cranky GOPers.
...under Ford, a Republican. And his reply I'd figure to be the same as McCain or any RINO could feed the sheeple: "We did the best we could."
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I pledge to vacation with the little green guys from Mars this summer. See how easy it is to make meaningless pledges?
Do you honestly think that McCain’s current association with La Raza and numerous hardcore open borders advocates are going to magically disappear just as soon as he's elected?
If you believe what McCain says, why do you think he surrounds himself with people who have a vastly different message and who broadcast their conflicting message loudly?
“A question: have you been hearing the same sentiments (from the voters in your local GOP district) as the commenters on the blog post?”
I would say so. I live in an ultra-conservative military community in central Texas. In my county, we only have one county-wide office occupied by a democrat, and he is retiring(and being replaced by a Republican in January).
The interesting thing is that because of the military voters, a lot of people here like McCain’s military background, but they still hate many of his positions. A lot of the black soldiers are supporting Obama, but obviously not because of any of his policy positions.
This election is not something many conservatives here are looking forward to.
It’s still going strong!
Yup. ;)
But the 1 million $ question is; is anyone at the RNCC or the RNC paying attention?
“is anyone at the RNCC or the RNC paying attention”
I doubt it. Or they haven’t figured out how to spin it yet.
I also left a message at Coles congressional office email:
“CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?”
If they're as ideologically craven and intellectually dishonest as their paid Team Juan shills, hereabouts: not a chance.
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