Posted on 05/16/2008 9:06:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
LOUISVILLE, Kentucky (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain warned gun owners on Friday that his Democratic opponents Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would threaten their right to bear arms, as he sought to rally conservatives' support in the November election.
The right to bear arms in the Constitution's second amendment is considered sacred by many U.S. gun owners. Both Obama and Clinton tout their support for it, although they also say ways must be found to keep guns from falling into the hands of criminals or those who are mentally ill.
But the Arizona senator accused the two Democrats of giving only "theoretical" support to the second amendment.
"They claim to support hunters and gun owners. But just because they don't talk about gun control doesn't mean they won't support gun control," McCain told a convention of the National Rifle Association.
"If either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is elected president, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will be at risk. They have both voted as senators to ban guns or ban ammunition or to allow gun makers to be sued out of existence," he said.
Obama, an Illinois senator and the front-runner in the battle for the Democratic nomination to run against McCain in November, countered by accusing him of trying to whip up fear about his positions and using the "same playbook" from other elections.
"I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms. I do believe that there is nothing inconsistent with also saying that we can institute some common-sense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago," Obama said while campaigning in South Dakota.
BACKGROUND CHECKS
Reasonable gun laws would include strong background checks of those who sought to buy weapons and tracing guns back to "unscrupulous" gun dealers who sold them to people who shouldn't be able to get them, Obama said.
The influential gun rights organization's convention drew some 70,000 people and its panel of speakers included other well-known Republicans, including former presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.
Huckabee, interrupted by a loud crash as he spoke, joked that the noise was Obama falling off a chair as he dodged a gun aimed at him. "That was Barack Obama. He just tripped off a chair. He was getting ready to speak and somebody aimed a gun at him, and he dove for the floor," Huckabee said.
The former Arkansas governor later apologized, saying it was an "offhand remark that was in no way intended to offend or disparage Senator Obama."
McCain's appearance was part of his attempt to shore up support among the conservative base of his party.
McCain has differed from the National Rifle Association on some issues, said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, who cited McCain's support for requiring background checks for people who make purchases at gun shows.
"That's one of the disagreements we've had," LaPierre told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "On the other hand, Senator McCain is the only one in the race that has a pro-gun record of any kind."
To underscore his support for gun rights, McCain stopped in a gun store in West Virginia. But the senator, who does not hunt, walked past the rifles and picked up a fishing pole instead.
"I'm very well versed in the use of firearms. I carried a firearm in combat. I've used them in the past. I'm just not a hunter," said McCain, who served as a Navy pilot in the Vietnam War and is a former prisoner of war.
(Additional reporting by Jeff Mason, editing by Chris Wilson)
Neither did you. It's a critical point. The law is no different at a gun show than elsewhere. There is nothing magic, black or white, about sales at a gun show.
The real target is not private party sales at gun shows, it's gun shows themselves.
One thing about gun show sales is different. There is a much higher chance of their being a police officer or BATFE agent on the premises than at either a gun shop or someone's home.
The Spad (Skyraider) was designed by the same guy who later designed the Scooter (Skyhawk). Ed Heinamann.
Actually, C- from the NRA and a F- from the GOA for McCain.
Very interesting. Not only does McCain support closing a loophole that doesn't exist, he goes to a state not his own to do it.
These not the actions of one who understands the second amendment, let alone supports it, anymore than McCain-Fiengold was written to strengthen the first amendment.
He also shows that he'd clueless. There is no such thing as an "unlicensed dealer". If you are "in the business" of dealing in firearms, you must have a federal firearms license. Period. Stop, end of discussion. (Enforced by cat stomping, dog shooting, goons).
He did want to get reelected. And that was before he was quite such a notorious big name Maverick on the national scene.
???? If the cost of the deal increases, does not that equate to a higher price. (actually it doesn't, price and cost are not the same thing, but in the vernacular they are often equated).
McCain would be a better frog cooker. With Clibama the frog might just jump out of the pot.
But John, I'm a free citizen in a free country. So why is it that, if I took out a full page ad in a newspaper 60 days before an election, and ran this article word-for-word, and encouraged my fellow citizens to vote for you, and against your opponent, I could be fined and jailed? Why is that, John?
I do believe the answer to my question is the McCain-Feingold law, John. Which is another piece of the puzzle of the things you just don't get.
And since you don't get this, you don't get my vote. Do you get that, John?
Thank you for making my point.
Whenever the MSM reports on the "gun show loophole" they NEVER mention it covers private sales at a gun show. They completely omit the fact that probably over 99% of the sales at a gun show are done thru licensed dealers who do conduct background checks.
My post was to troll for someone to point out the fact that I didn't say anything about private sales (thank you) even though I repeated time and again that background checks are done at gun shows; which is something the MSM won't even do.
So it's no wonder that most Americans think that gun shows are nothing more than arms bazaars that sell to rednecks and terrorists as they never even explain the most obvious details.
And I must disagree with you on the fact that they are going after gun shows first. I think they need to get the private sales gone first (as that's their "gun show loophole"). That will make everyone who does a private transfer a criminal. They will have to go to gun shows or local dealers to get the deal done, which means all gun sales will be tracked. Getting them all into the system is the objective first. Then kill off the gun shows.
Off to go look for a new G29 for a truck gun :-)
Obama’s meaning of “common sense” is passing a law, or maybe even an Amendment stating that only law enforcement and federal entities may be armed, and that citizens must be disarmed.
That’s when it’s time to vote from the roofs.
You’re buying a gun tomorrow? You must be a bitter person. Do you cling to religion too?
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:)
Would it be cheaper to purchase a new AR-15, get one off gunbroker.com, or buy one at a gun show? Manufacturer notwithstanding
I still don’t think he gets it.
The cheapest gun is going to be available from somebody who is anxious to sell it. If you can find a poorly-attended gun show and you wait until the last hour of the show and you can find a seller who is hoping to make his morgage payment by selling a gun, you might just get a good deal.
How about suggesting that the SS protecting B(57 states)HO and HRC hang up their firearms and only be armed with pepper spray. Unless one or the other is going hunting. Then they can be armed to the teeth, just like any other American. Or so I suppose.
Yer right.
Rumor has it the the A-1 was the inspiration for the A-10.
Oh yes! God is my copilot but Glock is my armorer ;)
Although, my fun guns are S&W snubs: 500, 460 and 29 :)
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