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1 posted on 05/16/2008 4:56:22 PM PDT by thinkingIsPresuppositional
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Peggy Noonan's most recent piece contains a lot in with which I agree, but the trend in a lot of her other recent pieces has seemed to indicate a growing personal bitterness towards the man. That's sad.

No, that's just Peggy; bitter that she doesn't have access to the WH like she did under GHWB.

2 posted on 05/16/2008 5:00:03 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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Sorry, Bush is in it for himself. He’s left scorched Earth behind him for meager results. He’s defined conservativism as himself and his policies. He’s screwed the pooch and there’s no sign of him doing anything to fix it. He trying to re-create Bill Clinton’s last year for his Nobel Peace Prize for creating a Palestinian State, no matter that it another terrorist entity now and has no reason to stop terror.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 5:06:32 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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Bush is 100x better than Juan McTraitor.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 5:06:53 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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Anyone who would subvert our sovereignty in the NAU, anyone who would willingly keep the borders wide open in a time of danger, anyone who would water down our precious votes with the amnesty of millions of socialist aliens, simply and specifically does *not* get it.

Horhay needs to go hang out with his dad in KennedyBunkMatePort and go fishing.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 5:07:41 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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We could have done worse than Bush. In fact, we are about to.


7 posted on 05/16/2008 5:10:04 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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>> “to become a personal, emotional hatred.”

Glad no exclusions were made for logical hatred.

Noonan’s work of late depicts shallow sensibilities. I suggest she indulge in a healthy cup of vinegar before writing her next masterpiece.


8 posted on 05/16/2008 5:11:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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Theodore Roosevelt once said “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


11 posted on 05/16/2008 5:15:22 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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The harsh critics of President Bush - as to be distinguised from the crude, rude and vile Dimocraps - will wish for the good’ol days of Bush #43 once we’re in a dizzy spin with any one of the 3 Presidential contenders.
I also disagree with President Bush on many of his domestic policies but he has my 100% support on our WOT. At least I can disagree without my loaded rifle at my side.


13 posted on 05/16/2008 5:16:46 PM PDT by caisson71 (Times change, values don't.)
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memo to the casual reader: threads like this attract the rabid anti-Bush and anti-Noonan crowd. They’re quite predictable, and they most certainly do not represent FR. In fact, most of them are DUmmies in thin disguise.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 5:40:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the jihadis are the shock troops of communism.)
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"The left hates him the way the Democrats hated Lincoln—not just political hate, but a burning, visceral, personal hate. But we conservatives and Republicans, however disappointed we may be in aspects of his conduct of the office of president..."

"We" Republicans took a man who lifted us up out of the rubble of 9/11, inspired us not only to fight the enemy that Bill Clinton almost completely ignored for the sake of his "legacy", but equally importantly reminded us of how EASY it is to work together in the face of adversity and we threw him under the bus just like Barack Hussein Obama did his racist mentor. Around Katrina, many "conservatives" damned that same man for not breaking the 11th Amendment the way Bill did at Waco, and it was straight downhill on greased rails from there.

"Real" conservatives hate Mexicans with with that same gnawing, visceral hatred that Democrats reserve for him, while American jobs were being funneled to CHINA via BILL CLINTON'S PNTR - but China isn't Mexico, so that's ok. We aided and abetted the enemy. In a time of war, we aided and abetted the enemy. We've cut the legs out from under our leader because little l libertarians hate George Bush just like Cindy Sheehan does. Just like her boyfriend, Lew Rockwell the Real Conservative. We're Code Pink, we "conservatives" are. We only lack the groovy T shirts.

President George Bush, though he HAS disappointed us on occasion, but not nearly as much as some conservatives have disappointed him. We DESERVE McCain.

21 posted on 05/16/2008 6:11:42 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama's bus needs a lift kit just to clear all the bodies!)
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The speech to the Knesset is wonderful. The President does understand the most important issue of our times. If he were running for re-election I would vote for him. But I would vote for him for that reason alone.

Unfortunately, President Bush has his heart in the right place but has been a poor leader. The Noonan article nailed it. Bush has been right any number of times yet unable to articulate his (and my) point of view in a way to convince the American people. The war in Iraq is just one (the most important one) example.

When he made his case for the war in Iraq, I didn’t need convincing. I knew that Saddam was supporting and exporting terrorism, whether he could be tied in to Al Queda or not. But I felt a deep foreboding when he rested his case so firmly on the WMD. I felt that the delays in invading made it a near certainty that none would be found and that this would be a powerful weapon in the hands of his political adveraries. I hate being right about things like this. His enemies ripped and tore at him over this and he was, frankly impotent in response. A more articulate leader might have made his case, but he did not or could not. He has never really recovered.

Now it appears that he has taken the entire Republican party down with him, and putting the government of the US in the hands of a Democreatic Party that has moved so far to the Left that I no longer recognize it, at the worst possible time in history. The war against radical Islam could be won, but Hillary or Barack will turn that opportunity into disaster. The economy could be turned around with decent tax policy and a return to a solid dollar, but the Dems are likely to give us a Depression.

Don’t want to sound pessimistic :-)


35 posted on 05/16/2008 7:27:41 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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Three things, and they’re big one, that I’m pleased with Bush about: WAR ON TERROR, Robert and Alito.


44 posted on 05/16/2008 11:01:43 PM PDT by Hildy
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