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Don’t forget the 10,000 pound Tallboy bomb that’s about to fall onto GM’s head (and ours) in the form of the 35 mpg CAFE edict. That changes … everything. The recession, crippling gas prices and declining buying power of the dollar are merely the coupe de grace.

More "government is our friend" stuff like this, and we'll be well on our way to third-worldism.

1 posted on 05/16/2008 1:18:43 PM PDT by XR7
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If the Democrats have their way we’ll all be in rickshaws by 2025.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 1:22:37 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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Trabants here we come.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 1:24:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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I think Chevrolet should simply come out with a fairly conventional but lightweight 9/10 scale replica of a ‘57 Chevy (Maybe with a hottish V-4) and I think it would sell. Not a solution to anything, just a car folks would buy.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 1:24:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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Thank the ‘Rats & Rino’s for CAFE and the demise of classic American Road Car.


5 posted on 05/16/2008 1:25:05 PM PDT by freedom1st
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Don’t worry. We will all have our bicycles and and old mopeds for transport soon enough. No worries. The government knows best.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 1:25:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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Mullet Man sez:

No way, dude. The Camaro is forever.
9 posted on 05/16/2008 1:29:35 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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The new Dodge Challenger is in even worse shape, CAFE wise. Its wonderful 6.1 liter V-8 won’t last long in this world, given city mileage of 13 mpg — and highway mileage that isn’t even out of the teens (18 mpg). Yes, a V-6 version is coming, but the most efficient engines of this size/type that Chrysler has available - like Ford — don’t come close to delivering 35 mpg.

I used to have a 1966 GTO with a 6.5 liter (389 CID) V8 and a carburetor, and it got this kind of mileage or better. What gives?

10 posted on 05/16/2008 1:29:54 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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"In a Yugo"
12 posted on 05/16/2008 1:36:30 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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Ford and GM should make 2.0 liter versions of the Mustangs and Camaros and then have upscale versions with V-6 and V-8’s........


13 posted on 05/16/2008 1:37:16 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Our own government is going to kill the American auto industry.


16 posted on 05/16/2008 1:40:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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...”Those of us who still have jobs and have been able to maintain the same income we had a year or so ago are few, thankful — and nervous.”...

Huh? The unemployment rate is 5% - near-total employment traditionally. What is this putz talking about? Gasoline at $5/gal would go a long way toward forcing conservation - a good thing in itself.

Intervention by a democrat congress and President in the business of the oil companies would be disastrous and un-American. Exactly what one would expect from the democrat party.


17 posted on 05/16/2008 1:42:14 PM PDT by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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So, I guess a big-block version is out of the question? Curious post from a poster with a Ford trim level as a screen name.


21 posted on 05/16/2008 1:46:45 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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22 posted on 05/16/2008 1:48:05 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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Remember that unlike Challenger (which is "spun off" the existing Charger sedan) GM has had to invest a great deal in what amounts to a brand-new platform/tooling and so on to make this happen. Big sales are needed to make it up. It increasingly looks as though that is extremely unlikely to happen.

Bull. The Camaro is based on the Australia Holden Zeta RWD platform.

Regardless of what GM decides to do about the Camaro in the US, the Zeta rear wheel drive platform is going to be built for the European and Australian markets, so the platform costs for the Camaro is in sheet metal.

Motor Trend: GM Rationalizes Rear Drive: Sigma and Zeta architectures to be converged, Impala likely to stay FWD

23 posted on 05/16/2008 1:51:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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I can’t believe nobody’s posted “this thread is useless without pictures” yet...


24 posted on 05/16/2008 1:55:32 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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Related thread:

Less Is More For Ford's New V-6 Engine [Federal Regs Kill the V-8]
 

 

25 posted on 05/16/2008 1:55:42 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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With all of this sort of bull coming down the pikeI don’t think I’ll be buying any new cars. I have a ‘98 firebird v6 I’m looking to bolt a supercharger to (anyone out there selling one?). I’ll make do with that. Off the line it’ll probably do a shade better than the factory V8 (300HP). Can’t imagine what it’ll sound like though, a little angry and hollow I’d imagine.


28 posted on 05/16/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by TalBlack
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2 wycked

"Cold dead hands baby..."

33 posted on 05/16/2008 2:04:50 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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1982 Camaro 2.2L 4 cylinder 3 speed. wow

35 posted on 05/16/2008 2:05:38 PM PDT by evets (I have a crush on Hillary.)
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I suppose the Bugatti, the Lamborghini, and the Ferrari will become illegal to own in the US?


36 posted on 05/16/2008 2:15:35 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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