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Saudi rejects Bush Begging for Oil - Shame on U.S.
Yahoo ^ | May 16, 2008 | Jennifer Loven

Posted on 05/16/2008 9:14:46 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabian leaders made clear Friday they see no reason to increase oil production until their customers demand it, apparently rebuffing President Bush amid soaring U.S. gasoline prices.

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KEYWORDS: bush; bushvisit; demobstructionist; energy; middleeast; oil; saudi; saudiarabia
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It must be humiliating for President Bush, a Texas oil man from an oil family, to have to travel to the middle-east, the world's cradle of hatred, bigotry, sexism, violations of human rights, anti-semitism, homophobia, xenophobia, and almost all other forms of evil and depravity (this side of San Francisco)....to have to go there, hat in hand, leader of the free world, leader of the world's largest economic and military power, and beg for an increase in oil production.

What the hell is wrong is George Bush? While we are at it, what the hell is wrong with Liberals, Environmental Whackos, and frankly much of mainstream America?

We have countless oil reserves off shore from the West Coast, off shore from the Gulf states, in Alaska, and throughout the continential United States. We must look like completely self-destructive, hypocritical, foolish, morons to the rest of the oil producing world.

Our working class, and over-extended middle class, are now fighting $100-$125 gasoline fill-ups. A huge chunk of the money we pay for crude oil, and petroleum products, goes right into the hands of our enemies, and so-called allies (who hate our guts and hope we and Israel die).

We waste billions, and billions, and billions of dollars fighting a war on poverty (that will never be won), a war on (some) drugs (that will never be won), a war of (some) terror (that will never be won so long as morons refuse to seal our borders) - yet we won't spend a penny to help ourselves with the oil crisis?

I grew up in the oil fields. Almost every man in my family worked in the California (and Oklahoma, and Texas) fields at some point. I worked in an oil productio supply warehouse starting at 10 years old. BEfore that, I would ride in the fields with my grandpa and dad as they drilled and produced oil.

This is what needs to be done:

1 - We need to build 3 massive refineries. One in the Gulf, Two on the West Coast. We haven't built a refinery in decades, and the ones we have are above maximum capacity.

2 - We need to lift almost all regulations and taxes on oil exploration, oil drilling, oil pumping, oil shipping, oil refining.

3 - We need to make sure that all of those oil related companies, above a certain $ level, are publicly traded and thus can be invested in by each and every american.

4 - We need to open drilling. Gloves Off. Drill offshore (each of our shores). Drill Alaska. Drill on land. And drill with international partners.

5 - We need to use the massive burst to our economy to partially invest in solar, wind, nuclear, other-atomic, and other forms of cheaper, cleaner, renewable energy, as well as technology to CHEAPLY increase fuel efficiency.

6 - we need to make Iraq pay for its own liberation by taking enough oil from them, or buying at cost, until we have been repaid each and every damn dollar we spent on the war to liberate them. And, we need to take enough more to pay the families of each and every dead soldier one million dollars.

When it has reached the point that we are begging terrorists to please pump more oil, the madness has got to stop.


1 posted on 05/16/2008 9:14:47 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Awesome post!


2 posted on 05/16/2008 9:18:07 AM PDT by Longtooths
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

yes all you say is true

We also need to also hold back all military and other aid to Saudi Arabia.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 9:18:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Our Nation sure has stooped pretty low hasn’t it? Disgraceful, I say.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 9:19:37 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Longtooths

This is all for show. Bush and virtually every POS politician could care less.


5 posted on 05/16/2008 9:19:47 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh; admin

Why don’t you use the actual title of the article instead of dogging the President.


7 posted on 05/16/2008 9:21:47 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Our biggest problem, supply wise, is with Mexico. They nationalized the oil production system and don’t know how to expand or maintain it. They used to be our number 1 (possibly only 2) supplier and now are down to at least number 3 or lower.

Mostly we have refining problems as you mentioned.


8 posted on 05/16/2008 9:21:53 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Longtooths
Thanks. I have had it. Of all the people in the world who would engage in this kind of humiliating, backwards assed, self-destructive, pandering to terrosists, it makes me sick to the pit of my gut that George Bush won't put his foot down.

Since when did compassionate conservatism come to mean self-destructive spineless energy policies?

We bitch and whine about how the working and lower middle-class are disappearing. Think about this

In 1980-1985, an uneducated, hard-working young man could get a job in the oil fields, making $20.00 per hour or more, working drilling rigs and production. In today's dollars, thats got to be at least $60 per hour. Today, if you can even find an oil field job, you're lucky to find one paying more than $12-$15 an hour to start, and topping out in the $20's.

Who is the jackass that thinks that's good for our country? Our economy? Our family structure?

We give those jobs away, to terrorists, meanwhile we leave the working class to wither and die on the vine.

Then, you take a moron like Obama, who panders to the poor (while making fun of them in his rich gay elitist inner circles in San Francisco) - by empathizing about jobs shipped overseas. His solution? TAX THE COMPANIES. Hey moron, how about this solution - KEEP THE JOBS HERE.
9 posted on 05/16/2008 9:23:18 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the title. Thanks.


10 posted on 05/16/2008 9:23:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
"Saudi Arabian leaders made clear Friday they see no reason to increase oil production.."

Maybe we should give them a reason. Like getting enough money together to rebuild Mecca.

11 posted on 05/16/2008 9:24:32 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: L98Fiero

First, your name calling is completely uncalled for. Second, if you’re gonna talk like a big boy, at least have the decency to support your position. How about you explain yourself? I would be interested to see how you think there’s nothing wrong with begging overseas nations for oil, while our reserves go unused and our economy tanks.


12 posted on 05/16/2008 9:24:45 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

What a load. Want to buy a refinery? 220,000 barrels per day. Good market for jet fuel.


13 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I agree with the aforementioned proposals, but lets go a step further. Based upon any relevant evidence, Saudi Arabia should be added to the list of nations that are considered to aid terrorists and their cause. This would effectively end foreign aid to them and cause them to reevaluate their position.


14 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:45 AM PDT by Historix
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To: aft_lizard
Because the title I had is better. Frankly, it is humiliating and shameful for Bush to be there in the first place.

Think of this perspective for a minute. The entire Arab world knows that (a) we have massive untapped reserves of our own (b) our economy centers around petroleum products (c) we voluntarily choose not to use our own oil based on the simple reason that a bunch of panty-waist liberals and treehuggers feel bad about oil (d) our economy is tanking (e) our working class high-earning jobs are disappearing and (f) we have to go to terrorists and beg for oil.

We are the laughing stock of the arab world, and its our own fault.
15 posted on 05/16/2008 9:28:03 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: gathersnomoss
This is all for show. Bush and virtually every POS politician could care less.

You are correct my friend. Our elected politicians and family, many of whom are stock holders in oil companies, love the big dividend checks, love the increased value of the stock, love the extra tax revenue (no conflict in owning stock in an industry they regulate, nah)....As well, the oil companies are very happy not to drill more, build more refineries...why not, profits keep going up...The Saudis and the rest of the oil producers laugh all the way to the bank as they live the high life....Hey, who cares if the little guy is screwed at the pump...Our elected officials and their families are happy and the oil companies and their stock holders are happy, the Saudis and their friends are happy...whats not to like?

16 posted on 05/16/2008 9:29:23 AM PDT by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
"1 - We need to build 3 massive refineries. One in the Gulf, Two on the West Coast. We haven't built a refinery in decades, and the ones we have are above maximum capacity."

IMHO - This will only increase our reliance on oil we do not control. Instead, I would suggest that we need to construct electrical generation plants, coal, hydro, whatever; even nuclear (though they take 10 years to build). And, we "immediately" undertake a national effort of "land a man on the moon" scale or greater, to maximize the use of the electric "plug in" vehicles (pure electric or hybrid) which are very close to being introduced.

Electrical power can come from many different sources (even "green" people can be satisfied), and, since most vehicles would be charged at night, we have adequate infrastructure to begin.

REMEMBER RIYADH!

17 posted on 05/16/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
It must be humiliating for President Bush...to have to go there...and beg for an increase in oil production.

I object to the use of the word begging and the lefties would be screaming if he didn't try to do something about gas prices. Jeez.

18 posted on 05/16/2008 9:32:11 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Why should they? It’s in their best interest to make a buck off our stupidity.

They are probably thinking about all the help we did not give them back in the 90s when the price of oil was $14 a barrel. It’s pure business, nothing more. You’ve got to look out for number one. Unfortunately, our politicians have not done that.


19 posted on 05/16/2008 9:32:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

“What the hell is wrong is George Bush?”

He’s just responding to political pressure directed upon him by the media. It’s not so much Bush who is the blame for this fiasco as it is the media.

In fact, I would say that the media is pretty much to blame for all of the problems this nation faces.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 9:35:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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