Why are you stirring the pot?
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You have to prove worthiness first.
Posted on 05/16/2008 8:32:53 AM PDT by MizSterious
May 16, 2008 —
The recent raid on Warren Jeffs' Yearning for Zion ranch in Eldorado, Texas, which resulted in the removal of more than 400 children from their homes, has thrust allegations of widespread child abuse at the polygamous sect into the national spotlight.
But one of the darkest secrets of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints unfolds at a seedy roadside motel in the remote Nevada desert, where underage girls --some as young as 14 --are allegedly forced through hasty and secret wedding ceremonies.
Elissa Wall says she was one such 14-year-old who was taken to the motel and plunged into wedlock with no choice but to accept and obey the command of Jeffs.
Sam Brower, a private detective who has spent five years investigating Jeffs and his sect for a number of former members, says the weddings are done "covertly, real cloak-and-dagger like."
Wall, now 21, told ABC News' John Quinones that, "I was trapped. I felt like I had nowhere to turn. I did not want to go through with this marriage. I felt, honestly, what it was like to die."
Watch the story tonight on "20/20" at 10 ET
Wall has documented her terrible ordeal in a new memoir called "Stolen Innocence."
In it, she described in detail growing up in the sect that she says betrayed her faith. She says her wedding was the culmination of a traumatic experience that began when church leaders removed her, her mom and sisters from their family and reassigned them to. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
Spit it out, we really don’t know what you are saying.
First of all, why are you stalking me from thread to thread with your nonsense?
Second, did I say I was ashamed of anything here? I just asked him to go ahead and say just who he was talking about. For one thing, I do NOT go “from thread to thread” and “spend the rest of the day bashing Mormons” as he states. In fact, please find ONE thread where I “bash Mormons.” And as for “spending the rest of the day” etc., I did spend a lot of time on the dailies. I do NOT spend much time now that I no longer do them. Go ahead, try to prove otherwise. You’ll be sadly disappointed.
Arranged marriages are part of major religions all over the world. Many are consumated very young. We do not imprison Saudis who bring their wives here and we do not punish Hindus who return to India for their brides, having never met them, and bring them back here. Two teenagers getting married is not in and of itself rape if it is consentual.
Jeffs was prosecuted because he was a polygamist and they couldn’t punish him for it, so they looked for a different charge.
On thread after thread this morning I see you pro cult guys, dragging in the word Mormon.
Explain further. I do not have a clue as to what you are talking about.
If I get “pinged” so what, really what has that got to do with anything regarding this thread information?
Elissa was key in bringing down Warren Jeffs —her story is told in detail in this book —it’s a heartbreaking read and you get a good idea of what a pervert Jeffs is:
When Men Become Gods: Mormon Polygamist Warren Jeffs, His Cult of Fear, and the Women Who Fought Back by Stephen Singular (Hardcover - April 21, 2008)
This is FR we don't buy your multicultural cesspool We Are the World BS, this is America.
As far as you defending Jeffs for being an accomplice in this rape, how do you account for all of the other recent convictions for these "arranged" sex crimes against other FLDS men?
I don't know who "they" are but Jeffs isn't finished yet, now he is being tried in Arizona and there may be more to come from Texas.
"They" have been trying to stop this cults sick practices since the 1930s. The feds have raided them, Utah has raided them, Arizona has raided them, Texas has raided them, and Canada is considering raiding them.
Thanks for the “cabal” ping!
If Mormons want to read about real persecution around the world, go to worthynews.com —persecution of Christians abounds around the world:
• Zimbabwe Christians Facing Famine And Persecution, Aid Workers Say
Added: 05.14.2008 04:49
• Algeria: Christian Sentenced for Carrying Bible
Added: 05.12.2008 04:00
• Bangladesh: Pastor's 13-Year Old Daughter Gang-Raped
Added: 05.09.2008 07:42
• Christian Villagers “Expelled” In Bhutan; Missionaries Concerned
Added: 05.08.2008 08:58
• India Missionaries Facing “Death Threats” In Maharashtra State
Added: 05.08.2008 08:56
• Indonesia: Islamists Threaten to Tear Down Church
Added: 05.08.2008 08:55 And those are only one day's worth of news stories. It doesn't cross the radar in the mainstream media --
They do LOTS of things in other countries that we don't allow here. Should we allow them ALL here, just because they do it in some 3rd world h*ll-hole? How about honor killings? Maybe beheadings? What the heck, let's just have a free for all: if you can find something that's done in another country, just have at it. US laws don't matter--we are the world, right?
(Shaking head in disbelief....)
Note: not my sister!!
Well, since you like to use this term frequently, I have dubbed you with your own honored title, Sir LeGrande, our galliant ex-Mormon, self-proclaimed atheist:
You are hereby dubbed, "First Presidency and Leading General Authority, All-Seeing Seer and Ground-Level Revelator of the X.M.A.A.M. P.A.T.R.O.L." *
* X.M.A.A.M. P.A.T.R.O.L. = X-Mormon Atheists Anti-Mormon Personages Appearing To Restorationists On (the) Loose
(Wow! You get your own personal title with an "anti" word in it since you freely claim to be "against" Mormon divine "personages!")
Of course, we don't want to just bequeath upon you some mere academic, honorary title with no teeth. Therefore, FastCoyote, revelator of FReeper revelators, will make a "personage appearance unto you," and equip you with your own XMAAM PATROL peep stone! [We also suggest that you set up your own personal magic decoder peep stone codebook, possibly to be called LeGrande's Doctrine & Covenants]
With your known and highly notorious communication skills already evident, we cannot wait to read your "scriptural" equivalency revelations post-peep stone!
(Could we please have some 'attaboys! to Sir LeGrande!)
Why are you stirring the pot?
Do you want to join our cable?
You have to prove worthiness first.
Ok, if Elissa WERE your sister, would you be her brother or sister?
(I’m going to get an answer to this one way or another!! LOL)
No one else will play with him!
What’s your problem?
I have it on good authority that “F”lds has nothing to do with mormonism.
Why are you talking about mormons on an flds thread, anyway?
YES!
You’re just mean.
*Sob*
I am sorry, the subject was the ping list your name is on. I thought it was proper net etiquette to ping the people we were talking about.
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