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This atheist finds he needs a foxhole
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 4, 2008 | Robyn E. Blumner

Posted on 05/16/2008 7:55:57 AM PDT by rosenfan

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To: DeLaine

My 6yrs experience in the Navy showed that very few were religious, I think that’s because on a carrier during VN, there wasn’t anything to really be afraid of.


21 posted on 05/16/2008 8:22:37 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: CatherinePPP
if you meet an atheist with a good heart then this is exactly the WRONG way to bring him to Christ

Amen to that, FRiend. The people who brought me over made a point of not pushing their beliefs on me.

22 posted on 05/16/2008 8:23:27 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: wideawake

I like this one, tells me all I need to know about the writer.

>>That’s no way to placate Muslim populations around the world.<<

How does one placate a Muslim?


23 posted on 05/16/2008 8:23:57 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: stuartcr

Oh, I heard some stories from navy folks during VN...

not anything life threatening, just uncomfortable, like, when the carrier had to turn into the wind...


24 posted on 05/16/2008 8:25:16 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ishabibble
How does one placate a Muslim?

Well, three things will placate a Muslim.
You could convert to Islam.
You could subjugate yourself and pay the jizya tax.
You could die.

25 posted on 05/16/2008 8:26:41 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: LottieDah
My future son-in-law, a Marine, is an athiest who served in Fallujah. He lost five buddies there. He is also from the God-less state of California. Other than the lack of religion thing, he is a really great guy.

How does his lack of religion keep him from being an all-around great guy?

26 posted on 05/16/2008 8:33:29 AM PDT by rosenfan
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To: rosenfan

Jeremy Hall is so tiresome and boring.


27 posted on 05/16/2008 8:35:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GunRunner
Best thing you can do is ignore it ~ I served alongside Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Moslems, Animists, Baptists, Amish, Presbyterians and Jews ~ if someone made a religious comment, I simply did my job whether I agreed or disagreed with them.

Irrespective of your religion, or lack of religion, the military is one of those places you shouldn't let your own beliefs or nonbeliefs get in the way of conducting yourself professionally.

You'll be out of there soon enough and you won't even remember what your buddies believed specifically.

And never forget, all of them have a full right to their own religious beliefs and your attempts to interfere with them will probably not be appreciated ~

28 posted on 05/16/2008 8:39:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stuartcr

But even more....they were tolerant of religious differences.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 8:40:29 AM PDT by DeLaine (Lord, help me to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: Dead Dog
This doesn't pass the sniff test.

This does to me. As a former atheist in the military, in some units there was no problem, but in others I knew to keep my head down. One community was basically run by evangelicals. And that was just as enlisted. Officers have it harder since they must actively participate in a variety of social functions if they want to advance, and a good number of them are religious.

30 posted on 05/16/2008 8:40:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wideawake

He was safe. On the other hand I’d guess he was considered quite obnoxious and impolite, maybe suffering from borderline personality disorder.


31 posted on 05/16/2008 8:41:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MrB

If you were ships crew, you may as well have been off the Vacapes.


32 posted on 05/16/2008 8:42:15 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: DeLaine
The Army even allows/supports Wiccans, and yet this guy is treated this way?

It depends on the post. In this case it's the local chaplain's call. I've met chaplains who I count as some of the greatest people I've ever met, and they truly wanted to aid the spiritual needs of the soldiers, no matter what their beliefs. But then I've met others who used their position to proselytize their brand of Christianity and ignore or suppress anything else.

33 posted on 05/16/2008 8:44:08 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rosenfan

Most religious people aren’t that obnoxious, but you’ll find a few that are overzealous. At least, the Christian zealots are more likely to pray for the unbelievers than cut off their heads, so what’s the real harm in that?


34 posted on 05/16/2008 8:44:13 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: stuartcr
How, by having the guy get killed? That might be one sulution. But I think it might be a bit better to cite, and be able to prove, that was the reason for sending him home -- not just taking the word of a couple of misfits (as it appears to be).
35 posted on 05/16/2008 8:46:06 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: ishabibble

The ones I know, just want to do their job and have a place to pray...but then again I’ve been told my Muslim friends are really Muslims, because they do not want to kill people and force them to accept Islam.


36 posted on 05/16/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
I thought it was only Christians that caught flack for their beliefs??!!!

The article said that most of the 8,000 complaints this organization has were from Christians.

37 posted on 05/16/2008 8:46:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rosenfan

He must have dead, soulless eye...creepy looking


38 posted on 05/16/2008 8:48:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: antiRepublicrat

You had an overactive imagination. Sure religious people have an extra dimension to their lives, but it’s not some sort of conspiracy aimed at you ~ many of them are sufficiently Calvinist they really don’t care about your fate in the universe ~ and it’s really surprising how many folks you can turn into good Calvinists if you are sufficiently obnoxious about your own differing beliefs or lack thereof.


39 posted on 05/16/2008 8:48:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MrB

VERY good point.


40 posted on 05/16/2008 8:49:29 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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