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FLDS Mothers May Have To Abandon Religion To Reunite With Children
KUTV News ^ | 5/15/2008 | Rod Decker

Posted on 05/16/2008 6:27:40 AM PDT by JRochelle

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To: lady lawyer

I’ll repost the Texas bigamy statutes here again. It seems Texas has your “multiple shack-up” theory covered.

TITLE 6. OFFENSES AGAINST THE FAMILY

CHAPTER 25. OFFENSES AGAINST THE FAMILY

§ 25.01. BIGAMY. (a) An individual commits an offense if: (1) he is legally married and he:

(A) purports to marry or does marry a person other than his spouse in this state, or any other state or foreign country, under circumstances that would, but for the actor’s prior marriage, constitute a marriage; or

(B) lives with a person other than his spouse in this state under the appearance of being married; or

(2) he knows that a married person other than his spouse is married and he:

(A) purports to marry or does marry that person in this state, or any other state or foreign country, under circumstances that would, but for the person’s prior marriage, constitute a marriage; or

B) lives with that person in this state under the appearance of being married.

(b) For purposes of this section, “under the appearance of being married” means holding out that the parties are married with cohabitation and an intent to be married by either party.

(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)

(1) that the actor reasonably believed that his marriage was void or had been dissolved by death, divorce, or annulment.

(d) For the purposes of this section, the lawful wife or husband of the actor may testify both for or against the actor concerning proof of the original marriage.

(e) An offense under this section is a Third Degree Felony.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974 .

Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994. Amended September 2005.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 6:56:00 AM PDT by Flo Nightengale (Keep sweet? I'll show you sweet.....)
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To: lady lawyer
The men are not going to be charged with bigamy.

They will get charges of rape if anything. Of course they have scurried away like the rats that they are.

As of the last count, only 8 of them showed up to give DNA samples.

Those were men that knew they weren't in legal jeopardy. I was surprised to see there was one older man in that place that had only one wife. Good for him. I am all for him getting his kids back, as long as he keeps his kids away from the other men.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 6:56:11 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Graybeard58

Of course. If it is statutory rape, that is another matter. The post I was responding to was about bigamy.


43 posted on 05/16/2008 6:56:13 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Bushwacker777

How many wives did Jacob have?


44 posted on 05/16/2008 6:57:14 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: allmendream

Nobody said anything about “impregnating 13 year olds”, I was talking about polygamy. Did you get your education out of a Cracker Jack box?.............


45 posted on 05/16/2008 6:57:14 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: JRochelle

Homosexuals cannot claim “religious freedom” easily, unless they resurrect a religion from ancient times. Polygamy, however, can be claimed as a “religious” tenet with longstanding, and the cultural discrimination against it adds to their argument......


46 posted on 05/16/2008 6:57:20 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...........

*************************************************************

Even if it includes rape and child abuse? Would that cover human sacrifice as well, since it’s been such a widespread religious practice in other cultures throughout history?

After all, if the inner city pregnant teens and pregnant teenage mothers of past generations , is a valid enough argument to protect the cult’s illegal practices, then the past generations and world wide practice of human sacrifice should be enough justification for the First to cover that.

Right?


47 posted on 05/16/2008 6:58:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Ten years ago, or so, a professor at the University of Wyoming published a book, the thesis of which was that raising any child in a Christian religion was child abuse.


48 posted on 05/16/2008 6:58:43 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Red Badger

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...........


Guess the next step maybe the defining of what is a religion......

Suppose a group wants to start a religion that used human sacrifices?.... Is that okay?

Suppose a criminal gang decides we’ll become a religious group rather than a gang and part of our ritual will be the use of, mfg of, distribution of drugs?..... Is that okay?

Gov’t needs to take hands off but there has to be rules, boundaries and limitations ......


49 posted on 05/16/2008 6:59:13 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: lady lawyer

I don’t see anything illegal about them “multiply shacking up” with whomever they want as long as it is consensual, between adults, and children are not being abused. Why can’t they just do their thing within the confines of the law?


50 posted on 05/16/2008 6:59:55 AM PDT by Burkean
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To: P-Marlowe
Ok, lets see if anyone wants to defend that.

To defend it, you have to believe it's true

51 posted on 05/16/2008 6:59:55 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Flo Nightengale

Thanks for the citation - do you have one on TX common law marriage?

And your tag line is funny as heck.


52 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:16 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Red Badger

Anyone can claim religious freedom. Where does it say it has to be an ancient religion?


53 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:15 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: CindyDawg

At least four. The sons who headed the twelve tribes came from four different wives.


54 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:39 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: JRochelle
Polygamy is evil

Even voluntary polygamy?>/p>

55 posted on 05/16/2008 7:01:51 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Burkean

Good question. I think in some polygamist groups they don’t “marry” girls below the age of consent. I think that used to be the case even for the FLDS.


56 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:04 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: metmom; deport
We're talking about polygamy, not human sacrifice or any other such criminal activity. The Indian tribes out west have won the right to use peyote as a religious sacrament, even though it is an illegal drug for everyone else, simply because it was and has been used for century or more by them. Polygamy goes back millennia.........
57 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:18 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: JRochelle

Then you agree that potentially not everybody is guilty and not everybody should be stripped of parental rights if not guilty and perhaps even, not be stripped of the fundamental right in this country to have freedom of religion? One can have beliefs but act according to the laws.

“And if my thought-dreams could been seen
They’d probably put my head in a guillotine”

Bob Dylan.


58 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:48 AM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: Soliton

Yes!

I put it on the level of voluntary incest, gay sex etc.


59 posted on 05/16/2008 7:03:48 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Flo Nightengale

So, under that statute, all they would have to do is refrain from saying they are “married” and call it something else.


60 posted on 05/16/2008 7:05:13 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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