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Hawn turns self in on bison slaying charges ( Atzlan Native Community mentioned )
The Park County Republican & Fairplay Flume ^
| 5/15/2008
| Mike Potter
Posted on 05/16/2008 6:15:16 AM PDT by george76
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:15:16 AM PDT
by
george76
To: george76
someone should have kept the Buffler offin his land. Sounds like he was just protecting his interests on his land.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:20:01 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
(" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
To: george76
--sure does put this incident in a different light than anything I've seen in the Denver Pest or Rocky Mountain News--
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:22:23 AM PDT
by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: Vaquero
Probably just providing meat for the railroad that they’re trying to build. Wait, that was Buffalo Bill.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:23:49 AM PDT
by
NavVet
( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
To: Vaquero; XeniaSt; jazusamo
Colorado is a “fence out” state, meaning property owners are charged with the task of fencing their property to keep livestock out.
The rancher isn’t required to fence his or her livestock in.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:27:39 AM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Vaquero
someone should have kept the Buffler offin his land Absolutely, & damn right someone should have!
In Colorado, the law clearly spells out that it was his responsibility to keep the bison off of his land; not someone elses to keep them on their land.
This POS was way out of line shooting them down.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:27:46 AM PDT
by
laotzu
To: laotzu
All the same, law or no law, if I owned valuable livestock, I’d be doing everything I could to keep them on my property.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:30:01 AM PDT
by
knittnmom
(...surrounded by reality!)
To: laotzu
oh...never heard of that. Free range I suppose. I guess I have been living back east all my life where if you want to keep it, you fence it in.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:30:49 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
(" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
To: george76; girlangler
ping to follow up on buffalo killing creep.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:32:10 AM PDT
by
Grammy
To: 80 Square Miles
To “fence in” buffalo, you’d need more than traditional stock fence...
To: redlegplanner; MtnClimber; r9etb; rellimpank; beaversmom; moondoggie; GSWarrior
On March 19, three bison gut piles were found on the Hawn property, eight dead bison were found on Bureau of Land Management property, four dead bison were found on U.S. Forest Service property, 14 dead bison were found on property owned by Catherine Pimm, and three bison gut piles were found on property owned by Robert Lemm.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:34:52 AM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Actually, no. Bison are pretty easily confined by an electric fence, or 3-strand barb wire. I lived in Montana for 5 years and used to drive by ranches all the time with peacefully grazing buffalo behind such fences.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:39:00 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
(You like Samurai swords? I like baseball!)
To: george76
Open range laws are interesting when it comes to livestock but with the buffalo the situation may be different. Buffalo are generally considered a wild animal and if they are harassing domestic livestock the owner (state?) has the responsibility to control them. This rancher may well have been within his rights if he was killing to protect his stock or himself. Buffalo are dangerous and carry Brucellosis.
To: Vaquero
Florida had the same laws on fencing until 1947, believe it or not!
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:41:03 AM PDT
by
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
(All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
To: Lion Den Dan
If the goal is to prevent disease, would leaving gut piles and rotting buffalo carcasses be effective? (Just asking, not trying to be inflammatory.)
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:41:11 AM PDT
by
knittnmom
(...surrounded by reality!)
To: CholeraJoe
Someone said bison would push over a normal fence that would keep in cattle...
To: Lion Den Dan
eight dead bison were found on Bureau of Land Management property,
four dead bison were found on U.S. Forest Service property,
14 dead bison were found on property owned by Catherine Pimm,
and three bison gut piles were found on property owned by Robert Lemm.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:45:31 AM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: george76
Great article in the Flume
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:46:34 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
I wonder if there was inadequate grazing available for the number of buffalo being kept. If they had adequate grazing, I would think buffalo would keep grazing at home. I don’t have any personal experience with that, though.
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:50:39 AM PDT
by
knittnmom
(...surrounded by reality!)
To: 80 Square Miles; editor-surveyor; Carry_Okie; Myrddin; Troublemaker; familyop; Calpernia; ...
Of the 16 bison shot weeks prior, it was confirmed that seven cow bisons had unborn calves in utero, it said.
“Monte Downare has stated that all of the 20 cow bison killed on the property were bred and would have calved in 15 to 20 days.”
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posted on
05/16/2008 6:51:33 AM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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