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To: SampleMan
Prosperity for China has an opening influence, but it is not an end in itself. Germany also had a surge of prosperity in the 1930's. The fire of nationalism, misdirected by the NAZI's ensured that Germany's prosperity did not end so well.

Germany's economy during the 1930's was significantly geared towards war production. Look at China's current numbers from exports, to GDP, to consumer purchases. China's military spending is small in comparison to all other measures to China's economy. And even when using the Pentagon's estimate of China's military budget. And when using the Pentagon's estimate of $120-$130 billion or so, it represents a reasonable percentage of China's overall GDP.

Currently, Chinese nationalism is seen by the West as focusing on racial superiority and a desire to prove their power by making lesser countries kowtow.

It may be perceived in the West that way, but is it in reality true? Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are critical of Americans as being racist. But simply because they have that point of view, does that make it true?

There are 40 million democratic Taiwanese who do not desire to be forced into the collective, yet China is growing its military by leaps and bounds with the sole focus of doing just that.

I have worked with people who are native Taiwanese, and there is indeed a strong political view amongst many for independence. But there are equally strong views from those who trace their ancestry to China and who were born and raised in Taiwan who believe Taiwan is part of China. And they are just as passionate in regards to their view.

Meanwhile, we have a large and powerful socialist movement in the United States who has decided that we must unilaterally disarm and lay our head upon the block for every third world potentate with an ax.

I don't know if you disagreeing with my previous comment or not, but did you read the part where I said that US forces are involved in over a hundred places across the globe? ...and more so than any other country in the world. The US military budget represents half the world's military budget. So, if there is a socialist movement in the US to disarm, they aren't having much of an affect from my observation.

18 posted on 05/17/2008 2:51:34 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: ponder life
It may be perceived in the West that way, but is it in reality true?

They're a bull in a China shop throughout Asia when it comes to throwing their economic muscle and UN veto around. Perception has nothing to do with it. Its a reality from Thailand to the Middle East.

I have worked with people who are native Taiwanese, and there is indeed a strong political view amongst many for independence. But there are equally strong views from those who trace their ancestry to China and who were born and raised in Taiwan who believe Taiwan is part of China. And they are just as passionate in regards to their view.

I'm starting to suspect you are just a Chicom propagandist. The native Taiwanese far outnumber the 1949 immigrants and I don't buy that any of them relish surrendering their freedom to be part of the hive.

I don't know if you disagreeing with my previous comment or not, but did you read the part where I said that US forces are involved in over a hundred places across the globe? ...and more so than any other country in the world. The US military budget represents half the world's military budget.

And we still haven't taken another country like Tibet and claimed it as our own. How about that.

So, if there is a socialist movement in the US to disarm, they aren't having much of an affect from my observation.

Well you can keep hoping, that Chinese money keeps rolling in to them.

19 posted on 05/17/2008 4:29:45 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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