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A Big Boom in a Quiet Galaxy
ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 14 May 2008 | Phil Berardelli

Posted on 05/16/2008 12:49:36 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/16/2008 12:49:36 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

bump


2 posted on 05/16/2008 12:50:38 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: neverdem

bkmark/thanks


3 posted on 05/16/2008 1:01:33 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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4 posted on 05/16/2008 1:04:35 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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“produce the heavy elements—including oxygen and carbon”

Oxygen is a “heavy element”?


5 posted on 05/16/2008 1:07:46 AM PDT by DB
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Oxygen is a “heavy element”?

http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/stars/FusionHydrogen.html

6 posted on 05/16/2008 1:28:31 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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Oxygen is a “heavy element”?

Compared to hydrogen and helium, I guess so. I didn't write it. The images are interesting.

7 posted on 05/16/2008 1:32:07 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: DB
Oxygen is a “heavy element”?

Sorry. Try this one instead:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/sun/Solar_interior/Nuclear_Reactions/Fusion/Fusion_in_stars/fusion_in_stars.html&edu=high

8 posted on 05/16/2008 1:34:17 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: neverdem
The galaxy won't be so quiet when this puppy finally blows:

(It hasn't yet, it's just getting ready. But anytime tomorrow or in 10,000 years).
9 posted on 05/16/2008 1:36:49 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Oxygen is a “heavy element”?

It should have been 'heavier' elements. Oxygen is only #8 in the periodic table. On the other hand, compared to hydrogen and helium it's pretty heavy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_evolution

10 posted on 05/16/2008 2:03:03 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Telepathic Intruder; neverdem
Very cool! Thanks!

Eta Carinae

11 posted on 05/16/2008 2:09:29 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"The galaxy won't be so quiet when this puppy finally blows: "

With a 25,000 light year distance, that 'puppy' may have
already mailed its candygram 25 millenia ago (postage was reportedly much cheaper then).

12 posted on 05/16/2008 3:52:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
It's really only 8,000 light years away. And candygrams can't travel faster than the speed of light, so those would be arriving right about, now? I wouldn't worry about eta Carinae, though, this one is much more dangerous:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335186,00.html
13 posted on 05/16/2008 4:26:32 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: neverdem

The Milky Way is a perfectly ordinary spiral galaxy, except for a shortage of supernova activity.
-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—

I don’t think I ever heard this before. Worth mulling over in a philosophical and religious sense, as well as a scientific sense, if this is accurate.


14 posted on 05/16/2008 6:44:15 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: DB

In the science of star processes, at times even Helium is considered “heavy”, but more typically the “light” elements are Hydrogen, Helium, Lithium, and Beryllium. Everything else is typically considered “heavy”, but Oxygen is definitely, always, considered “heavy” in a star.

Simple star fusion processes will result in a release of energy up to the element Iron, but since there are so few atoms of anything other than Hydrogen or Helium, the chances of them coming into sufficient proximity is extremely small, so for most of the life of a star, very little heavy atom building occurs.

When elements heavier than Iron are built, it takes energy OUT of the system, instead of releasing it. That process almost never occurs in a normal star, but only in supernova events.


15 posted on 05/16/2008 7:09:27 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: DB

I probably should have added, that although Beryllium and Lithium are usually considered “light” in star processes, they are very rare in a star due to not being very stable, so they don’t last long enough to take part in any further reactions. Carbon is the smallest stable nucleus other than H or He for stellar processes. This renders the usage of the term “light” to effectively mean H or He.


16 posted on 05/16/2008 7:18:00 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


17 posted on 05/16/2008 11:28:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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18 posted on 05/16/2008 11:29:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Captain Beyond
Stuff like this leaves me 'sufficiently breathless'.

L

19 posted on 05/16/2008 11:39:58 AM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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LOL good one. Yes it is like a “dawn explosion”.


20 posted on 05/16/2008 2:35:06 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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