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To: Jacob Kell

>> Yes, Milosevic’s forces committed atrocities, but that doesn’t justify atrocities committed by Albanians against innocent Serbs.

That’s what exactly, Serbs? Nice to blame Milosevic, and deflect blame but he didn’t pull a trigger. Serb soldiers did. Do you know many Serb people still support the Radical Party’s view on Kosovo? Their official view is still Great Serbia and that Milosevic didn’t push hard enough. It isn’t just Milosevic.

No it does not justify against innocent Serbs, and it’s a shame. But it explains it. When you entire life is gone, you do not react reasonably. You have to also understand, that despite the “official” line, Serbs did NOT want K-Albanians to ever come back. They confiscated and burned their documents, robbed them blind of money and jewelry, burned their houses and then threw them out. In some cases they even raped girls in front of their families to literally destroy them. Their plans must have been to deny re-entry to anyone who not have documents when the war was done. Kinda convenient, right? You need documents to enter, but we just burned them. Local Serbs participated in this, either willingly or they were forced to (or mob rule took over), the idea was to make it impossible to come back since the neighbor who did this to you will be there. The poor Roma were caught in between: Serbs asked them where is this person, or who has the most money and they obliged. When Albanians came back, Serbs refused entry for the Roma.

>> I was under the impression that the Serbs largely left the Albanian Catholics alone. Or was I mistaken?

Online I have found evidence that they robbed and looted two Albanian ones, but Croatian Churches weren’t so lucky. On Youtube there a few videos of Serb soldiers taking aim at them with mortars. I remember reading in a report that several 100 catholic churches were destroyed during the war. My point was hypocrisy. If I slap you and you slap me back, why am I complaining??? Some worship mosques other churches. If you don’t respect mine, why should I respect yours? Moreover, historical places and century old bazaars were wiped out—totally. People do get angry at such things.

>> Does that include the Ottoman Turkish period?

Medieval by definition includes that period. I have not found any evidence of K-Albanians touching them—other than someone cutting a tree on church land, breaking a window that may or not may be “hate”—for ages. If they had wanted to, they could have despite the Ottoman tolerance let’s face. Albanians were some 75% when Serbia was granted Kosovo and there was no “Serbia” for 400+ years; just Turkey and regions.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 8:47:48 PM PDT by old-and-old
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To: old-and-old

>Online I have found evidence that they robbed and looted two Albanian ones, but Croatian Churches weren’t so lucky. On Youtube there a few videos of Serb soldiers taking aim at them with mortars. I remember reading in a report that several 100 catholic churches were destroyed during the war.

I think that maybe you’re referring to the wars in Bosnia or Croatia.

>Nice to blame Milosevic, and deflect blame but he didn’t pull a trigger. Serb soldiers did.

I said that, did I not?

>Do you know many Serb people still support the Radical Party’s view on Kosovo?

Maybe because the Radical party is the most prominent champion of ‘Kosovo is part of Serbia’ bit.

I have heard it said that all of the real revenge stuff happened the first few months or so after NATO entered Kosovo. Also, I don’t know if ALbanians made up 75% of Kosovo’s population in 1912.


19 posted on 05/15/2008 10:43:45 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Member of the LCMS since birth.)
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To: old-and-old

Do the Jihadists pay for the propaganda services of Ronly Bonly Jones?


22 posted on 05/16/2008 4:13:49 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

The latest return of Ronly Bonly Jones since his initial ban on June 11, 2004.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 4:18:05 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: old-and-old
"Their plans must have been to deny re-entry to anyone who not have documents when the war was done. Kinda convenient, right? You need documents to enter, but we just burned them."

Actually it was a convenient excuse for illegals to claim their documents were destroyed in order to get a blank check to enter Kosovo or go off to another country as a "Kosovo refugee".

There were reports of up to 400,000 Albanians from Albania and Macedonia flooded Kosovo after NATO's war. The border was left wide open for many months.

Britain says 90% of the alleged Kosovo refugees they've deported, they sent to Albania after discover that is where they were from.

British parents have even foster alleged Kosovo orphans only to find out they were from Albania and not orphans, and usually a different age than they claimed to be.

There was one case of a family who brought 2 Albanian brothers into their household - they brothers claimed their mother had been killed by Serb and her body dumped in a well.

Only about a year later did the family learn the truth - that the brothers were from Albania, not orphans and a few years older than they claimed. This was after a year of having things pilfered and money stolen from them, after one of them tried to seduce their 13-year-old daughter, after noticing the poor Kosovo refugee orphans liked to watch porn all day, etc.

30 posted on 05/16/2008 8:36:50 AM PDT by joan
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