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California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban (4-3)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/15/08 | AP

Posted on 05/15/2008 10:18:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO - The California Supreme Court has overturned a gay marriage ban in a ruling that would make the nation's largest state the second one to allow gay and lesbian weddings.

The justices' 4-3 decision Thursday says domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage. Chief Justice Ron George wrote the opinion.

The city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples and gay rights groups sued in March 2004 after the court halted San Francisco's monthlong same-sex wedding march.

The case before the court involved a series of lawsuits seeking to overturn a voter-approved law that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

With the ruling, California could become the second state after Massachusetts where gay and lesbian residents can marry.

"What happens in California, either way, will have a huge impact around the nation. It will set the tone," said Geoffrey Kors, executive director of the gay rights group Equality California.

California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners the same legal rights and responsibilities as married spouses, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support. It's therefore unclear what additional relief state lawmakers could offer short of marriage if the court renders the existing ban unconstitutional.

A coalition of religious and social conservative groups is attempting to put a measure on the November ballot that would enshrine California's current laws banning gay marriage in the state constitution.

The Secretary of State is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signature to qualify the marriage amendment, similar to ones enacted in 26 other states.

The cases before the California court were brought by the city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples, Equality California and another gay rights group in March 2004 after the court halted San Francisco's monthlong same-sex wedding march that took place at Mayor Gavin Newsom's direction.


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To: CounterCounterCulture

Do you know which Republican appointed these judges?


121 posted on 05/15/2008 1:40:54 PM PDT by peggy48
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To: peggy48
Baxter Chin Corrigan

Concurring opinions (in support of gay marriage) in red
Dissenting opinions in green

122 posted on 05/15/2008 2:07:56 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Those were the three dissenters in my previous post. I didn't clean that post up well enough ;-)
123 posted on 05/15/2008 2:10:03 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love the jealous God with all your being.

Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexuals had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

124 posted on 05/15/2008 2:14:28 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: WOBBLY BOB

tell it to [Bishop Vickie Gene] Robinson’s ex, too.


125 posted on 05/15/2008 2:16:00 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thank you


126 posted on 05/15/2008 2:16:01 PM PDT by peggy48
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Given what I've read from the opinion so far, California voters have not learned from the New York Supreme Court's relatively recent decision on gay marriage. If California's majority voters want to allow only man woman marriages then it is up to them to flex their voting muscle to amend their constitution to say so.

The bottom line is that Californians can choose not to be slaves to their own constitution or the judges who interpret it.

127 posted on 05/15/2008 2:20:40 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: NormsRevenge
We, in California, need the many Conservative groups to come together and help us get rid of the ACLU people on our Supreme Court. We cannot have Sodomy legalized in our state. Ramona Ripston’s husband and their disciples have to go as did Rose Bird.
Everytime we work ourselves to death getting a referendum on the ballot and vote overwhelmingly for it our terrible CA Supreme Ct and/or Appellate Ct. throw out our votes. Enough! Throw them out instead otherwise we are spinning our wheels and the Marxist continue to win.
128 posted on 05/15/2008 2:21:16 PM PDT by Linden1209
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Were Californians misguided to belief that voting on a proposition would be the best way to reflect majority will concerning one man, one woman-only marriage when they should have directed their efforts to having their constitution amended?


129 posted on 05/15/2008 2:22:07 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

I was wondering if you think people in the US are free to practice idolatry?


130 posted on 05/15/2008 2:24:54 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: NormsRevenge

Queers and pedophiles rejoice. Got a kid to donate??


131 posted on 05/15/2008 2:27:28 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Amendment10
And that flex might come as early as November. There's an initiative that has collected over 1,100,000 signatures and we'll know sometime in the near future from our California Secretary of State if it has officially qualified for the November ballot. (getting over a million is a good sign it'll make it... 694,354 valid signatures are required)
132 posted on 05/15/2008 2:32:31 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Amendment10

Just to clarify my previous post, the initiative is a Constitutional Amendment.


133 posted on 05/15/2008 2:33:33 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: calcowgirl

I don’t defend Arnold on his views, but his appointee Corrigan voted against homosexual marriage


134 posted on 05/15/2008 2:35:07 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: NormsRevenge; wagglebee; sionnsar; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; doug from upland; ...

Are any of the Supreme Court judges who supported this up for a vote this year? If so, this is an opportunity to clean up the court.


135 posted on 05/15/2008 2:36:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: NormsRevenge
They should hold off celebrating. There's a constitutional amendment that would revalidate the ban. Thank God I no longer live in California. The courts can't do that here in Colorado where the marriage protection law is written into the state constitution and is beyond the power of the courts to strike down. Californians will soon get the opportunity to overrule the California Supreme Court at the ballot box this year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

136 posted on 05/15/2008 2:40:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; All
And that flex might come as early as November. There's an initiative that has collected over 1,100,000 signatures and we'll know sometime in the near future from our California Secretary of State if it has officially qualified for the November ballot. (getting over a million is a good sign it'll make it... 694,354 valid signatures are required)

Hurrah!

California's voting majority may have learned something from the New York Supreme Court's decision on gay marriage as it concerns New York's constitution after all.

137 posted on 05/15/2008 2:42:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Clintonfatigued

They get appointed and then stand for re-election every 12 years unless they get recalled first, e.g.; Rose Bird, a Moonbeam appointee.

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http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/about.htm

One Chief Justice and six associate justices are appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Commission on Judicial Appointments. The appointments are confirmed by the public at the next general election; justices also come before voters at the end of their 12-year terms.

To be considered for appointment, a person must be an attorney admitted to practice in California or have served as a judge of a court of record in this state for 10 years immediately preceding appointment (Cal. Const., art VI, § 10).


from another post on the thread,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2016404/posts?page=54#54

Chin would look to be the only one standing for re-election and he voted
No.. sooo..

Ronald M. George, (since 1991), Chief Justice (elevated in 1996)
Marvin R. Baxter, (since 1991), Associate Justice
Ming W. Chin, (since 1996), Associate Justice
Carol A. Corrigan, (since 2006), Associate Justice
Joyce L. Kennard, (since 1989), Associate Justice
Carlos R. Moreno, (since 2001), Associate Justice
Kathryn Mickle Werdegar, (since 1994), Associate Justice

The Court currently has six Republicans appointees (George, Kennard, Baxter, Werdegar, Chin, and Corrigan) and one Democrat (Moreno).


138 posted on 05/15/2008 2:42:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I just saw that the ban on gay marriages will be on the ballot in November.

That ought to bring out the family value people.

McCain may just have a chance of winning if that issue is on the ballot the same time as the general election.

139 posted on 05/15/2008 2:44:48 PM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: Jack Black

I’m surprised you’re so impressed with those who dwell in Congress. I find it hard to find one that’s worth a bucket of warm spit, much less one that I want to elect as President.


140 posted on 05/15/2008 2:45:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The formerly grand OLD party has completely Whigged out.( Join the new one: SelfGovernment.US))
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