"I'll not be bahhck."
Posted on 05/15/2008 9:40:50 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has now abandoned his goal of fixing the problem that led to his historic election in 2003. With the revised budget proposal he released Wednesday, the governor has effectively conceded that California's era of perpetual budget deficits will not end on his watch.
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His trouble started early, when he proposed spending cuts that were politically unpalatable while failing to follow through on a fundamental, top-to-bottom rethinking of the way the state does business. When the economy briefly surged and brought in billions of dollars in unexpected tax revenue, Schwarzenegger lost his zeal for fiscal discipline and committed the new money to ongoing programs that could not be sustained once the economy slowed.
Even after all that, however, Schwarzenegger still had a chance to finish the job he was elected to do before his second term ends in January 2011. ... He can't, or won't, do what's necessary to right the ship.
The governor's failure is more than just a numbers game. It reflects his – and the state's – refusal to face reality. ...
The result: budget deficits year after year. Those deficits and the borrowing to which they have led mean that we're still paying now for services the state provided five years ago, leaving less money available for the things we need today. And years from now we and future Californians will still be paying – with interest – for the services we're getting today.
... As a society, California is actually doing pretty well compared with five or 10 years ago, despite its dysfunctional government. But the mess in Sacramento casts a pall over the rest of the state, and the uncertainty it creates might even be tempering the desire of private investors to expand and do business here.
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
Kelly,
I sure as hell which you guys could turn California into a Red state. :) Someone on Rush’s show a few months back had a great idea: about half a million retired couples move there just in time to register and vote...an extra 1,000,000 Republicans in California could do it.
Unfortunately, this season it looks like NONE of the choices we have are worth a damn.
“I sure as hell which you guys could turn California into a Red state?”
I trust you meant to say “wish” instead of “which”. LOL
Now to the issue...
CA elections are turned by the registered Independents like myself...and while “D” are aborting their offspring, conservatives are not.
In the last 15 years, the “R” has gained the majority in 10 counties(they had gained 12 but lost 2 in the past 4 years) and close to 20% of registered voters are “I”...so it is just a matter of time before conservatives take over this state and in the meantime, we just need to “secure the border & take out the trash!” LOL
You're kiddin', right? The majority most definitely did support him as the "better than Bustamante/Angelides" candidate on the theory of "the alternative is just too horrible to imagine."
There was a much smaller group that opposed him from day one and didn't vote for him. (I was one and I can almost name most of the others.) What do you think all of the flame threads were about? Folks who opposed Arnold were called every name in the book! In 2003, McClintock was slimed by those good "conservatives" as being crooked, too rigid, didn't get along with people, or a whole host of other cr@p.
You must be easily confused. He ran as a republican, many republicans voted for him. It didn't take him long to drop the act that he might in any way to be republican. Most conservatives are republican, hence the statement about conservatives and the idiot abandoning the party. I guess you just want to argue, is that it? What is your problem, nothing else to do today so you have to make some nonsensical statement and try to start an argument?
He damn well owes that voters of CA a balanced budget and spending cuts, not more taxes and more spending especially after his blowhard bragging when he was first elected during the recall.
His measures weren't defeated by conservatives they were beaten by voter fraud. Most elections in CA are decided by voter fraud. Arnold had given up trying to be a "republican/conservative" before the special election.
It is amazing how you Arnold supporters are still crying about that. It was apparent before the election the Dems were marshaling the illegal and dead persons votes, that doesn't mean Arnold was justified in abandoning the principles of the party he was supposed to represent.
BTW, I would guess you must be a liberal since you think somehow conservatives defeated hill bills during the special election.
Hmmm.....where have I heard this argument recently....?
Not true. The nastiness of Rnold supporters was so vicious and intense, the wounds they inflicted still haven't healed.
From what I remember, the majority of the people here were supporting Tom McClintock. The few people who supported Arnold here were treated the same way that McCain people are being treated here today. They were labeled as traitors and worse.
And don’t confuse conservative with Republican. I would think the people here would know that by now. It is true that Republicans supported Arnold. Conservatives definitely did not. Why should Arnold support conservatives who NEVER supported him?
The governor has proposed a 10% across the board spending cut and has most recently increased it. Hospitals in the state stand to lose 500 million dollars. If you don't think that's a cut in services you're out of your mind.
a guy named liberallarry is telling me I’m out of my mind, wow.
You really think all those proposed cuts will stick, you obviously haven’t followed the last few years of state budgets and how things work.
oh and there is something wrong with the article, it never mentions the cost of illegals anywhere. hospitals know all about them... and the cost... imposed by the state and the GUb. factor that in, liberallarry.
Well, since I just returned from a lobbying trip to Sacramento I think, yes, the hospitals will take a very big hit.
Considering a few hospitals closed in some areas the last few years, due to illegals and such, pray tell if I could ask what you lobby for.. universal healthcare, perhaps?
Maybe we should follow the example of Arizona ,, oh but wait, this is California, where we ignore the obvious and go for the goood feeeling in our gut instead.. and forget our own wallet, and just dip into some else’s wallet.
I lobby for my local hospital, which is the lifeblood of a small rural community in Eastern California. What do you do...besides ignorantly snipe at the honest efforts of others?
"I'll not be bahhck."
re: “I lobby for my local hospital, which is the lifeblood of a small rural community in Eastern California”
Would you be so kind as to explain what that means to the crowd? I think that the phrase “the lifeblood of a ... community” means that the hospital is an entity funded from outside the community, and thus brings in money to the community. If the community was paying for the hospital, then I’m not so sure that calling it the “lifeblood” really makes sense.
On the assumption that I am correct, it appears that you are saying that the community relies on the hospital as an organization to redistribute state funds to the community. If that’s so, then don’t you see that that’s simply redistribution using the hospital as cover? Reagan warned us about exactly that type of issue: having government take control by using health care / hospitals as a cover. Is that really OK?
Well, good for you,, much success.
now, now,, there ya go acting liberal.. and being defensive when you’re the one baiting the hook.
so, you’re not a liberal, just like the sound of the name, eh? have a nice day, larry.
Due to the regulations which govern hospitals - we must take all comers regardless of their ability to pay - and the way hospitals are reimbursed, only hospitals in well-to-do or wealthy communities are truly profitable and self-sufficient. The rest depend on Medicare, Medicaid, and grants to survive.
If one lives in a rural area the local hospital is often the only source of medical help within many miles - in our case many, many miles. So if the hospital fails the community will soon follow. The voters of our district, understanding this, voted by a margin of 70-30 to tax themselves to the max to support us, so we were able to become solvent and provide very good care.
Now Medicare and Medical cuts threaten to nullify the effect of the tax. Because we've had the time and luck to gather together an excellent staff and purchase good equipment cheaply we'll be able to stay open. Lots of others won't.
The bitter facts about health care are that it is too expensive for most people to afford. Essentially so. No amount of economizing will change that. Sure, banning illegals would help but what then? Let them die in the street? Allow them to carry communicable diseases untreated?
Sorry, but there are simply no good answers. The current cuts will force the closure of more hospitals and may even lead to total collapse of emergency care in many areas.
Yes, and here are some of the anti-Schwarzenegger posts (there are lots more if you bother to look):
“If I am an atheist but choose to call myself a Christian does that make me a Christian? Arnold is no conservative.
Arnold’s opposition to Prop. 54 was the final nail. I simply cannot support a racist.”
“The RINO is more dangerous to the party as a whole long term.”
“Arnold could have tag-teamed Bustamante’s @ss with McClintock. But he didn’t, and so as long as McClintock is in the race, no way SchwartzenEgo gets my vote.”
“I get up knowing more dirt will come out ON A MAN WHO IS NOT MORALLY FIT TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE. You, FairOpinion, and your friends (Rome2000 and others) should plan to enjoy the next few weeks because as a McClintock supporter I plan to do so. Let’s see: practitioner of group sex, dope smoker, seven-year mistress in England...and now racist comments and tirades towards blacks (backed up by two people). What a great guy you have? “
“I have a message for “Christians”, Catholics and other people of faith who are supporting Arnold, who supports the killing of unborn children, gay adoption and homosexual domestic partnerships. Your actions ARE SHAMEFUL. Frankly, I am appalled THAT ANY CHRISTIAN OR ANY PERSON of faith would support a person like Arnold Schwarzenegger.”
I pray you’re right, kelly!!!! How I would LOVE to see the biggest electoral prize back in play. :)
RD
has now abandoned his goal of fixing the problem ...
“You’ve been terminated, Terminator.”
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