Guns and Judges: Electing the Supreme Court in 2008 [Must Read!]

Townhall ^ | May 15, 2008 | Sandy Froman, NRA Immediate Past President

[2ndDivisionVet]

Please let me know what you think.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Well, I am going to be an ass.

This sounds good, and by itself might be enough to make me vote McCain.

BUT

This is about the seventh or eighth time I've gotten over my frustration and come back on the reservation...only to see him immediately do something stupid like hop on board with globaloney warming and La Raza crowd.

My thinking is coming down to this - John McCain may be the better short term tactical solution, but what about the long term? What happens to the GOP when it has to back up four years of Maverick's Schwarzenegger-esque program? How does that compare to what happens when they have the Empty Suit or Satan's Prom Queen in office to galvanise them?

I don't know. I'm getting a bit fatigued with John's Lucy-with-the-football routine.

[2ndDivisionVet]

He’s 71 years old and spent nearly six years in a Vietnamese communist prison camp. Do you really think he’ll survive one term, much less two? That’s why we conservatives need to get together somehow and let him know he should pick one of us as a running mate!

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Well, if his best selling point is that he’s likely to die while in office, I have to say that’s not much to hang my hat on.

[2ndDivisionVet]

If you're falling off a cliff and a clump of dandelions is all you can grab on to, do you say “no, I'll wait for a tree branch?”

[MARTIAL MONK]

he should pick one of us as a running mate!

Well, if I have to I guess I could do it. So long as my undisclosed location isn't the men's room at the Minneapolis Airport.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

That’s all well and good, but after third or fourth time grabbing the dandelions, might it not be a good idea to stay away from the cliff?

[2ndDivisionVet]

I want my own “lair” near the Greenbrier Hotel in West Virginia. I’ve always wanted a lair.

[papertyger]

If you're falling off a cliff and a clump of dandelions is all you can grab on to, do you say “no, I'll wait for a tree branch?”

Quaint analogy, but fundamentally flawed.

You can rest assured of one thing, if John McCain wins the general election the Republican party will never again nominate a true conservative.

[2ndDivisionVet]

"You can rest assured of one thing, if John McCain wins the general election the Republican party will never again nominate a true conservative."

You can also rest assured that if Barack Hussein Obama wins the general election, there will be no United States of America as we now know it four years hence. I put it to you: Which is more important?

[papertyger]

This sounds good, and by itself might be enough to make me vote McCain.

Mc Cain has made a career out of stabbing us in the back. Is anyone foolish enough the think he wouldn't do so again once safely ensconsed in the White House with a hostile Democratic Congress clamouring for a "mainstream" SCOTUS nominee?

[papertyger]

You can also rest assured that if Barack Hussein Obama wins the general election, there will be no United States of America as we now know it four years hence. I put it to you: Which is more important?

I simply think you are wrong.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

I think I adequately qualified that statement.

[RKBA Democrat]

“Please let me know what you think.”

Fair enough.

I think that Sen. McCain is not to be trusted, and the SCOTUS issue is a predictable red herring. Sen. McCain can put all the advisers he wants on his panel, but he’s ultimately going to do whatever he darn well pleases. As far as Sen. McCain is concerned, conservatives can go straight to hades. His SCOTUS nominees, if any, will reflect his hostility toward conservative ideals.

I also think that what you’re essentially “voting for” are not justices in the mold of Alito and Thomas, but justices in the mold of Souter, Burger, and O’Connor.

[samtheman]

You can rest assured of one thing, if John McCain wins the general election the Republican party will never again nominate a true conservative. ---papertyger

You can also rest assured that if Barack Hussein Obama wins the general election, there will be no United States of America as we now know it four years hence. I put it to you: Which is more important? ---2ndDivisionVet

I think there's a way, in theory, to work this out. First, to save the Republican Party, we don't vote the top of the ticket, or we vote 3rd party, or we even vote for Obama.

Second, to save the country, we all vote conservative down-ticket wherever possible.

It's just a theory. To put it into practice would be pretty tough.

The problem is, we're not a unified group anymore. For example, a lot of people who consider themselves conservative supported Huckabee.

The fact that Huckabee did as well as he did (and he's still getting votes) proves that the conservative coalition is shattered.

These are very depressing times.

[Vaquero]

McCain has a good rating from the NRA.

and seeing how the 2nd Amendment is the one that guarantees the whole constitution, I must hold my nose and vote for McQueeg.....but that does not make me happy to do so.

[2ndDivisionVet]

"I simply think you are wrong."

He'll be a much more radical Jimmy Carter with powers that men like LBJ, FDR, Bill Clinton and Carter could only dream of. He'll be the first out-and-out socialist president, the first ACORN rabble-rouser to hold the office and his wife will probably succeed where Hillary failed in becoming co-president.

[hellbender]

Absolutely right. The Demonrat candidate this time is not another mere dope like Walter Mondale. He's a slickly packaged, diabolically dishonest Marxist and black racist, and a product of corrupt inner-city machine politics. The country will not recover from the damage he and his pinko Supreme Court appointees will inflict. There is much to hate about McCain, but plenty to respect, and he's the only viable alternative.

Lest anyone think there is no difference, here are the ACU ratings (lifetime/2005):

McCain 83/80, Obama 8/8.

[Sender]

I used to service a few pieces of medical equipment that the Greenbriar kept in their “spa”. I found it curious that a hotel needed an EKG machine, defibrillator etc. They explained that they got a lot of “high-profile” corporate guests. I never knew about the lair. I first saw it on TV on the History channel.

[xmission]

This is about the seventh or eighth time I've gotten over my frustration and come back on the reservation...only to see him immediately do something stupid like hop on board with globaloney warming and La Raza crowd.

There it is in a nutshell....