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McCain: I was pro-environment before Clinton, Obama
ap on LA Daily News ^ | 5/13/08 | Glen Johnson - ap

Posted on 05/14/2008 6:14:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

NORTH BEND, Wash. - John McCain on Tuesday cast Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton as latecomers to the environmental battle, saying he would be willing to debate the issue with either of them in the general election to underscore his experience with the issue.

"People will trust my stewardship not only because of my background and knowledge, but also my vision for the future," he told reporters during a news conference at a nature center in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains.

"They have never, to my knowledge, been involved in legislation nor hearings nor engagement on this issue."

McCain cited his travels to global warming hot spots, as well as his work in his home state of Arizona with American Indians, who control broad swaths of property.

He also said the Democrats' plan to auction greenhouse gas emission permits - rather than giving them away, as he proposes - would lead to higher prices for consumers.

"My proposal is doable," said McCain. On Monday, he had sketched out his action plan for global warming.

"You can dictate a lot of things, but you have to unleash the innovative power and entrepreneurship of America in order to achieve these goals," he said.

McCain proposes to cut greenhouse gas emissions 60 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Obama and Clinton have committed to an 80 percent cut in emissions by 2050, a level favored by many scientists.

"While Barack Obama has brought Republicans and Democrats together around plans to raise our fuel standards and invest in renewable energy, John McCain's `long history' involves opposing countless measures to invest in renewable fuels and alternative energy technology," said Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan.

Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said: "Sen. McCain is welcome to rewrite history if he likes, but the reality is that Senator Clinton has been very active on the issue of climate change. She's even traveled with Sen. McCain a few times on trips that dealt with the issue."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; greens; liberal; liberalagenda; liberalvalues; mccain; obama; proenvironment; rino
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To: RoadKingSE
McCain willl be running commercials in October with the tagline:

Barack Obama, Too Conservative For America.

21 posted on 05/14/2008 6:36:45 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: NormsRevenge
McCain proposes to cut greenhouse gas emissions 60 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Obama and Clinton have committed to an 80 percent cut in emissions by 2050, a level favored by many scientists.

Even, round numbers such as these are obviously pulled from deep within one's buttocal cavern. Anyone who advocates them should have to describe the precise results to the climate from the proposed reductions and describe the basis whereby the percentages originated. Those proposing the numbers should be laughed about in all settings.

22 posted on 05/14/2008 6:36:52 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Cinnamon Girl

well, according to some who quibble over his age, he was around for the last Ice Age then too, I reckun.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 6:36:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I just can’t vote for this wacko. He wants this country to die.


24 posted on 05/14/2008 6:37:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, shut up, Juan.


25 posted on 05/14/2008 6:38:02 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Now now,, politicos love dealing in hot air,, facts are confusing to them, for some reason.


26 posted on 05/14/2008 6:38:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Now now,, politicos love dealing in hot air,, facts are confusing to them, for some reason.


27 posted on 05/14/2008 6:38:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

ROFL... Thanks for the laugh, Cinnamon Girl! I was trying to think of something witty to reply on the thread, but I can’t come up with anything better than yours, not in a million years! :)


28 posted on 05/14/2008 6:41:22 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: NormsRevenge

McNuts needs to take Algore Bearmanpig for VeeeP and the ticket would be perfect (can’t get any more stooopidiest)!


29 posted on 05/14/2008 6:43:06 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: Shermy

Apply directly to the forehead...


30 posted on 05/14/2008 6:44:05 PM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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To: xcamel

ROTFLMAAAAAOOOOOOF


31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:45:49 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: NormsRevenge
November 2003: "...We were nervous as hell," said Kevin Curtis, vice president of National Environmental Trust, describing the sentiment leading up to last Thursday's Senate vote that defeated the McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Act, 43 to 55. "But it's a great start. This may seem to be a defeat now, but in the end, it's a victory."

The victory lies in the gamesmanship surrounding the landmark bill, which was the first serious congressional attempt to rein in global warming. Three weeks ago, the bill reportedly had only 32 votes firmly in support of it; more than a dozen senators were on the fence. "Our fear was that if the bill pulled in fewer than 40 votes, we'd have screwed ourselves," said Curtis. "But a majority of the undecided senators broke in favor of McCain-Lieberman."

"Translation: Even though the Senate didn't pass the Climate Stewardship Act, which would cap carbon dioxide emissions from industries and create an emissions-trading system, the votes that the bill did attract sent a resounding message to the political machine. "The magic number in the current political climate is 40," said Curtis: A bill that gets at least 40 votes has a fair chance of passing if it's reintroduced, but a bill that gets fewer than 40 is as good as doomed for the foreseeable future...

Source: HERE. Note that Barack was not in the Senate yet and Hillary did sponsor this bill. Further this was the first climate bill--2003--considered by Congress. A great deal of the McCain Bashing lacks any factual basis.

32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:45:50 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: NormsRevenge
"People will trust my stewardship not only because of my background and knowledge, but also my vision for the future,"

John, you're making my deceased father puke in his coffin.........I don't trust your stewardship, I don't give a rip about your background and I certainly fear your vision of the future.

Just keep it up jerk, by mid July you'll either have me voting libertarian or stayin home on election day just to say "screw you!"

33 posted on 05/14/2008 6:46:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Bill & Hillary Clinton are the human equivalent of the herpes virus.....)
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To: steelyourfaith
Is McCain on some kind of medication?

Has he made his health records public?

It seems to me he is losing his sanity. Im not joking. It seems he has the mental capacity and judgment of an eight year old boy.

I remember AFTER he lost in the 2000 primary he had his cancer surgery. I remember at the time thinking that he must have been hiding the fact that he had a serious problem during the primary. I have a sneaky suspicion he has third degree case of brain rot and he knows it.

34 posted on 05/14/2008 6:50:14 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: trumandogz

Clever in his mind, of course.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 6:53:55 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge
McCain cited his travels to global warming hot spots

Strange wording. If the warming is "global," that implies it's getting warmer all over, so why would there be "hot spots?" Are there also "cold spots," where the polar bears can continue doing their thing just fine as the "hot spots" heat up? Have the warming alarmists only been getting their temperature data from those "hot spots?" And why can't McCain and his friend Hillary get together and (taking a tip from her husband) "put some ice on" those hot spots; then maybe the problem will go away.

36 posted on 05/14/2008 6:55:31 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: NormsRevenge

It seems they live in Washington and the “power” of the presidency blinds their eyes to the working man. There needs to be an amendment to outlaw a senator from being president. These goons need to understand I am for energy efficiency to save ME money. I want solar panels on my house that generate enough electricity that I can sell it for a profit. I want a car that gets 75 miles to the gallon and has a faster takeoff than my little 4 cylinder Ford Ranger. I want food prices that are fair to the man who farms the land and tills the ground and does not fund the false gods who claim to hold the future of the world in their hands. I want any man who claims to control that which is reserved by God to be revealed for the dangerous evil man that he is and given the opportunity to change the error of his ways without bringing the resulting inevitable oppression.


37 posted on 05/14/2008 6:57:43 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Mac!
Here’s a clue....You can be an enviromentalist, without being an idiot.

It is possible to use actual facts and science in the promotion of enviromentalism.
It is NOT necessary to make up ridiculous doomsday scenarios to gain people’s attention.
Do not use an environmental agenda to promote:
- wealth transfer,
- population control,
- socialism,
- earth worship, or
- the idea that human existance is evil.

If you don’t like dirty air, then tell the worst polluters to clean up their act. (uh...that would be India and China!)

Don’t pretend you have facts, when it is clear you have NONE!


38 posted on 05/14/2008 7:00:56 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: NormsRevenge

...well he’s older than them, so he can definitely say he was a lib before they were. I guess I believe him on this.


39 posted on 05/14/2008 7:04:09 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: ParaVet93

You should include the rise of China and Russia and the sinking value of the dollar to add to the pessimism. Just when we need strong leadership!


40 posted on 05/14/2008 7:06:27 PM PDT by balls
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