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Obama and the Cross [Obama trying to court evangelicals]
CBNNews.com ^ | 14 May 08 | David Brody

Posted on 05/14/2008 12:22:04 PM PDT by seanmerc

I have been telling Brody File readers for months that if Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee he will make a pitch to win over independent/moderate Evangelicals. Well, we now have evidence.

In Kentucky, he is making a direct appeal to Evangelicals with flyers that mention his conversion experience and they highlight a big old cross. Remember Mike Huckabee’s supposed subliminal cross in his Christmas campaign ad? Well, the Obama campaign ditches the subliminal and goes for the in your face cross. Look at the flyer here.

The Obama campaign has consistently believed that their candidate can compete for the “religious vote”. A lot has been made about how Obama hasn’t done as well with Catholics compared to Clinton. But let’s remember one thing: Obama has a story to tell about how Jesus came into his life. You can bet we will be hearing more details about it on the stump in the fall. (if Obama is the nominee)

Meanwhile, John McCain won’t be partaking in the “Evangelical speak” or handing out these types of flyers in the south which makes you wonder if Huckabee could help McCain shore up the Evangelical base and at the same time play to the Independent middle with his populist streak.

I know the conservative policy purists will say that Obama is liberal and therefore Evangelicals won’t buy his “Evangelical speak”. Not so fast. Remember, many people vote based on an emotional connection to a candidate or if they can relate to that person. Obama may need to work on this perception that he is “elite” but when he talks about Jesus and the Bible and the fact that he’s a sinner, it makes him more real and in the process, more electable too.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008; blueturban; christianvote; election; elections; evangelicals; faith; obama; obamafuscation; obamanation; obamarama; obfuscation; obomber
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1 posted on 05/14/2008 12:22:06 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Well, God bless Barry’s pointed Muslim head. And the lame stream media will be all over this....uh huh.


2 posted on 05/14/2008 12:28:21 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: seanmerc

So, Barack is now pro-life?

I see.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 12:28:37 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: seanmerc

Obama’s pro-choice and pro-infanticide stances make him un-electable to all true Christians as all pro-choice Christians are heretics.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 12:29:52 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: seanmerc
The Super Tuesday Presidential Prophecy
5 posted on 05/14/2008 12:30:41 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: seanmerc

I got this exact flyer right before the Texas primary, back in March. A Mercedes pulled up in our church parking lot after the service, and a kid popped out, and was giving one to everyone in sight.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 12:32:44 PM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: seanmerc
Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?" And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" Matt. 7:22-23
7 posted on 05/14/2008 12:42:25 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: seanmerc

Remember Mike Huckabee’s supposed subliminal cross in his Christmas campaign ad? Well, the Obama campaign ditches the subliminal and goes for the in your face cross. Look at the flyer here.

8 posted on 05/14/2008 12:46:43 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: DarthVader
Obama’s pro-choice and pro-infanticide stances make him un-electable to all true Christians as all pro-choice Christians are heretics.

Un-electable among evangelicals? I don't think so!

If Bill Clinton can get a large percentage of the evangelical vote, be assured that Obama is well on his way. Especially in today's Purpose Driven, "I am not right wing; I am not left wing; I am for the whole bird" (Rick Warren statement) seeker-sensitive, emergent church, social gospel, Tony Campolo/Jim Wallis/Brian McLaren evangelical environment.

My neighbor is a deacon in a small town, conservative Southern Baptist church, even teaches Sunday School, and he has sent out emails soliciting donations for Obama (because we need change and hope).

The evangelical community long ago gave up biblical standards and has been adrift. It is an atmosphere in which being "green" and curing Africa of AIDS has replaced the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the fight for the lives of the unborn.

9 posted on 05/14/2008 12:58:00 PM PDT by pby
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To: seanmerc

mark


10 posted on 05/14/2008 1:03:02 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: pby

They are not evangelicals anymore they are apostate.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 1:06:05 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: seanmerc

Believers generally take what their pastors say seriously, and they either agree with most of what their pastors say, or they find another church. Obama’s pastor’s rants will hurt Obama a lot with believers. They will think that: either Obama agrees with Wright about the USA and white people, or that he was being purely opportunistic and political in his choice of church for 20 years. Either way, serious Christians will generally have no use for Obama because to them, both alternatives will be seriously negative signs for them.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 1:08:15 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: seanmerc
Well, I guess he's not a vampire.

I guess we need to find another diagnosis for his purple lips.

13 posted on 05/14/2008 1:09:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: seanmerc

Between Obama’s stances on abortion, homosexuality and his choice of Pastor, I’m convinced he wouldn’t recognise the Gospel if it grew wings, flew up and bit him on the rear end.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 1:14:25 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: All

Apparently being a Christian is only a bad thing (politically) if you are a Republican...


15 posted on 05/14/2008 1:20:54 PM PDT by wgb
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To: FreeAtlanta
I guess we need to find another diagnosis for his purple lips.

Hypoxyphilia? Just asking. All that hope and change stuff is merely a form of autoeroticism.

16 posted on 05/14/2008 1:23:26 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: seanmerc; Fred Nerks
Barrack the Muslim , lying and disembling to conquer the infidels. Yes, yes, what is it called?

Obama's "Taqiyya * " campaign.

(* Taqiyya/Kitman -- Religious Deception)

i. Taqiyya -- Religious Deception

Due to the state of war between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb, reuses de guerre, i.e., systematic lying to the infidel, must be considered part and parcel of Islamic tactics. The parroting by Muslim organizations throughout dar al-harb that "Islam is a religion of peace," or that the origins of Muslim violence lie in the unbalanced psyches of particular individual "fanatics," must be considered as disinformation intended to induce the infidel world to let down its guard. Of course, individual Muslims may genuinely regard their religion as "peaceful" -- but only insofar as they are ignorant of its true teachings, or in the sense of the Egyptian theorist Sayyid Qutb, who posited in his Islam and Universal Peace that true peace would prevail in the world just as soon as Islam had conquered it.

A telling point is that, while Muslims who present their religion as peaceful abound throughout dar al-harb, they are nearly non-existent in dar al-Islam. A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners who believe that Islam is a religion of "peace" and "tolerance": try making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't live five minutes.

{A} problem concerning law and order {with respect to Muslims in dar al-harb} arises from an ancient Islamic legal principle -- that of taqiyya, a word the root meaning of which is "to remain faithful" but which in effect means "dissimulation." It has full Quranic authority (3:28 and 16:106) and allows the Muslim to conform outwardly to the requirements of unislamic or non-Islamic government, while inwardly "remaining faithful" to whatever he conceives to be proper Islam, while waiting for the tide to turn. (Hiskett, Some to Mecca Turn to Pray, 101.) Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269; Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

Historically, examples of taqiyya include permission to renounce Islam itself in order to save one's neck or ingratiate oneself with an enemy. It is not hard to see that the implications of taqiyya are insidious in the extreme: they essentially render negotiated settlement -- and, indeed, all veracious communication between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb -- impossible. It should not, however, be surprising that a party to a war should seek to mislead the other about its means and intentions. Jihad Watch's own Hugh Fitzgerald sums up taqiyya and kitman, a related form of deception.

"Taqiyya" is the religiously-sanctioned doctrine, with its origins in Shi'a Islam but now practiced by non-Shi'a as well, of deliberate dissimulation about religious matters that may be undertaken to protect Islam, and the Believers. A related term, of broader application, is "kitman," which is defined as "mental reservation." An example of "Taqiyya" would be the insistence of a Muslim apologist that "of course" there is freedom of conscience in Islam, and then quoting that Qur'anic verse -- "There shall be no compulsion in religion." {2:256} But the impression given will be false, for there has been no mention of the Muslim doctrine of abrogation, or naskh, whereby such an early verse as that about "no compulsion in religion" has been cancelled out by later, far more intolerant and malevolent verses. In any case, history shows that within Islam there is, and always has been, "compulsion in religion" for Muslims, and for non-Muslims.

"Kitman" is close to "taqiyya," but rather than outright dissimulation, it consists in telling only a part of the truth, with "mental reservation" justifying the omission of the rest. One example may suffice. When a Muslim maintains that "jihad" really means "a spiritual struggle," and fails to add that this definition is a recent one in Islam (little more than a century old), he misleads by holding back, and is practicing "kitman." When he adduces, in support of this doubtful proposition, the hadith in which Muhammad, returning home from one of his many battles, is reported to have said (as known from a chain of transmitters, or isnad), that he had returned from "the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad" and does not add what he also knows to be true, that this is a "weak" hadith, regarded by the most-respected muhaddithin as of doubtful authenticity, he is further practicing "kitman."

In times when the greater strength of dar al-harb necessitates that the jihad take an indirect approach, the natural attitude of a Muslim to the infidel world must be one of deception and omission. Revealing frankly the ultimate goal of dar al-Islam to conquer and plunder dar al-harb when the latter holds the military trump cards would be strategic idiocy. Fortunately for the jihadists, most infidels do not understand how one is to read the Quran, nor do they trouble themselves to find out what Muhammad actually did and taught, which makes it easy to give the impression through selective quotations and omissions that "Islam is a religion of peace." Any infidel who wants to believe such fiction will happily persist in his mistake having been cited a handful of Meccan verses and told that Muhammad was a man of great piety and charity. Digging only slightly deeper is sufficient to dispel the falsehood.

http://jihadwatch.org/islam101/

17 posted on 05/14/2008 1:26:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: DarthVader
They are not evangelicals anymore they are apostate.

BINGO!

And that is why Clinton had, and Obama now has, a good shot among so-called evangelicals...there are so many apostate ones.

Obama is already counting the apostate vote.

18 posted on 05/14/2008 1:45:58 PM PDT by pby
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To: pby

Birds of a feather flock together.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 1:49:51 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: DarthVader
Birds of a feather flock together.

Yep...and that is why Rick Warren had Obama, and Hillary Clinton, speak at his church in regard to AIDS.

20 posted on 05/14/2008 1:54:04 PM PDT by pby
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