Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Thread - Wednesday 5/14/08

The EIB Network ^ | May 14, 2008 | Rush Limbaugh

[Sunnyflorida]

” The answer is that rulers should be those persons who always keep before them the interests of the community as a whole.”

I don’t agree at all with this. This is socialist, populist, bullshit. Society is advanced when people operate in their own self interest.

[ishmac]

I think most of the socialism from him was more or less driven by going with the flow. Clearly HC was indoctrinated as a yute but I wonder now.

Actually, Hilly grew up in a conservative family in Illinois. I remember reading that her father was a drill sergeant, but don't know if that's true. In any case, one of her early political activities was, believe it or not, campaigning for Goldwater--yes, she was a Goldwater girl. It was college and the 60's generally that flipped her to the dark side.

[Eagle of Liberty]

Remember how mad he was that so many "Republicans" lost in the last Election cycle?

Um...no...newbie. You are completely wrong. In fact, he came out and said that he would no longer carry the water for "Republicans" such as McCain. And he will NOT be badgering us to vote FOR McCain.

Viking Kitties will be visiting you soon.....

[Eagle of Liberty]

But, perhaps, that is one of his great talented gifts.

It is.

[Eva]

No, I hadn’t seen that article. Thanks, I’m bookmarking it for my collection of Obama articles.

[Sunnyflorida]

Since you posted this socialist viewpoint on the Rush thread, I suggest you go and see if you can find Rush’s annual reading of the real story of Thanksgiving. It is termendously uplifting. It completely gets your head on straight as to our real founding and why working for self interest is the only way to prosperity.

[Eagle of Liberty]

In any case, it was ssumed that one would govern for everyone and not just for narrow, parochial party interests.

You are definitely going to need to expand on your post. Conservative values, those values which John McCain has abandoned, have been proven to lead to greater freedoms, while those positions that Senator McCain is speaking about most certainly appeal to narrow party interests. Only problem is that his positions appeal to the wrong party.

[ishmac]

I may have gotten the article from Freeper Jeff Head, who's the expert in all things Obama.

[shrinkermd]

Well let us see, on FR “conservative values” include kicking the 12 million illegals back to Mexico, dispensing with McCain-Feingold and, oh yes, we simply have to agree that there is no such thing as climate change secondary to increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Otherwise McCain has an 83% lifetime ACU rating. The things listed above should have resulted in either Tancredo, Hunter or Romney being the nominee. I know you and Limbaugh believe that it was those devious, dratted moderates who interfered with the primary and selected McCain. If you believe that, all you have said is there were more people voted for McCain than voted for anyone else.

Taking a longer look—even Rush Limbaugh agrees the 12 million cannot be deported back to Mexico (a caller asked him); hence, regardless of who is elected expect some sort of bill solving this. Probably much like Reagan's bill that gave amnesty to 3.5 million illegals. The trade off will be some sort of required identity card for all non native born Americans.

Also taking a longer look—going from 280 ppm to 380 ppm of atmospheric carbon dioxide is going to prompt some sort of action by Congress and the next President.

So, both of these issues will have beginning resolution regardless of who is elected.

That leaves us with the problem why have Republicans done so poorly at the polls. The answer is quite simple. For the last ten years the average cost of gasoline out of a dollar of consumer spending has been 4-5 cents. It is now 11 cents and when people are talking about hard times they are basically referencing this whether they know it or not. The lumpen proletariat are being told either there is some monstrous hedge fund conspiracy or the oil companies are ripping them off. In actual fact, India, China and other developing regions are beginning to use more and more gasoline while we have in the last ten years lost 30% of our domestic production.

So there is no tooth fairy! No politician—even a “real conservative” aka Rush Limbaugh—is going to come in and wage a magic wand and make things better. The future will prove this regardless of who wins the Presidency.

In the meantime, regards.

[TSchmereL]

With all due respect, the only clear point in your comment is that you think Rush has somehow failed to appreciate some value of good government that you think deserves more appreciation.

I have not though about it much, but in my opinion, Socrates has always seemed like the ultimate statist. He was unfairly and unjustly condemned to death for criticizing the State. When offered an escape from his sentence, he declined it. He voluntarily drank his hemlock because of his love and appreciation of the State.

Rush is not running for President. John McCain and Barack Obama are.

Neither of them, in my opinion, have the qualities I would like to see in a leader.

One quality of leadership I value is the courage to tell the truth even when the truth is unpopular. Honesty often precludes pandering to ignorant voters just to get elected.

Another human quality I appreciate is the humility to acknowledge and respect the integrity of honest, hard working individuals, regardless of their education or social status.

[harpo11]

"Please phrase your answer in the form of a question:

Perhaps he loves to flip out the Clintons by using satire to scare the daylights out of some of his loyal listeners who have no love at all for the Clintons and enjoy seeing their current problems stifle their stubborn bid for another try at the White House?

[Sunnyflorida]

Yep

[Eva]

Yeah, I know that Jeff Head has put together quite a file on Obama, but I must have missed that article.

[Eva]

I just came back from a political meet and greet with our candidate who is taking on the far left congressional incumbent. I told him that I was listening to Rush today and that Rush said that you can’t win trying to run like a Democrat. He agreed, he’s running on smaller government, ending earmarks, and oil independence through drilling our own reserves.

I’m going to try to call Rush tomorrow and tell him, but I don’t hold out much hope for getting through.

[Eagle of Liberty]

Well let us see, on FR “conservative values” include kicking the 12 million illegals back to Mexico, dispensing with McCain-Feingold and, oh yes, we simply have to agree that there is no such thing as climate change secondary to increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Well, I must be on the wrong site because I don't agree with kicking the 12 million out and I sure do not believe that the only contributor to climate change is CO2. McCain-Feingold, yes that sucks. It should go.

But honestly, your post makes little sense. One of the big reasons to explain the position that conservatives are in right now is BECAUSE the politicians who were voted into power in 2004 did NOT listen to the people of this country. Instead, they decided that they knew what was best for all of us so they ignored making any true reforms AND they allowed illegal immigration to continue almost unfettered. I am not for sending the illegals that are here home, but I sure as hell am for limiting future access, something that over 70% of Americans felt passionately about.

So because a Republican led Congress was completely unresponsive, many conservatives were looking elsewhere for leadership to emerge. It never did and 2006 was a slaughter. Then, the next opportunity for a leader to emerge was the 2008 Presidential election. And what happened? Everyone was so split arguing who was the better conservative because one unifying candidate had not stepped forward. So McCain, a man who had almost ZERO chance by the middle of 2007, is now the nominee.

McCain benefitted from many factors. He benefitted from Guiliani's horrible strategy. He benefitted by attracting moderates from both parties and he benefitted because the conservatives did not rally around one guy. Everyone was voting for who they thought was best. Unfortunately for some of us in later states, like me in Ohio, NONE of my picks were left by the time I got to vote. However you want to spin it, McCain does NOT excite the FR base, and yes, he will govern like a moderate. But as I said before, liberalism has made such great strides by pushing both parties to the left that governing as a moderate will mean the introduction of quite a bit of harmful legislation to our freedoms. If that is how you want a President to govern, so be it, but not me.

Unfortunately, as you said, we have little choice.