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To: Rick.Donaldson
I spent a month in Chengdu in the 1980s as the lead for a VP trip there (Bush). The people I met were either very nice and helpful or they were spies. There was no in-between. They took apart some of my antennas and photographed them, bugged our rooms, followed us everywhere, attempted to steal our crypto equipment, and on the day of the visit just as the VP landed, they cut off all our communications lines between our radio systems and control consoles. While the loss of life is staggering - I see this as one of the “reasons” that China will eventually attack the west with nuclear weapons. (Yeah, yeah, I hear some of you saying “far stretch”... but YOU visit there, spend a month and come away with a different point of view). Their thinking processes are WAY different from ours - and they are PLANNING to fight us soon, not later than 2010 or 2012.

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1980s......that's really long ago——the year I was born.I even do not remember you.

What you met with is not strange at that time,especially when you were involved in politics.And the same things are done by usa gov.,too,am i right?

From your logic I know you really miss The Cold War.Nuclear?hah,even children here know it's only a threat in Hollywood movie.None country would risk the destruction of earth to really use it in these days.

yes,many chinese hate america gov.,it's a historical result.But that doesn't mean we are aggressive man.And yes,we'll fight ,but not by war and not your country.We are all fighting to make money and earn us a better life by doing business and construction.Only idiots will seek war,are you?

87 posted on 05/14/2008 8:23:10 AM PDT by adcycn
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To: adcycn
1980s......that's really long ago——the year I was born.I even do not remember you.

I take it you're in China now? Interesting.

What you met with is not strange at that time,especially when you were involved in politics.And the same things are done by usa gov.,too,am i right?

I have to tell you, that things there haven't changed since I was there. I still remain in contact with some of the embassies around the world and I do read, and I can see from various videos what life is like in China (and compared to what I remember, it has not changed one bit).

From your logic I know you really miss The Cold War.Nuclear?hah,even children here know it's only a threat in Hollywood movie.None country would risk the destruction of earth to really use it in these days.

Do I "miss" the Cold War? No. I was a part of it from the time I was born in the 1950s until the day the walls in Germany fell. Hell no, I don't miss it.

Nuclear war is a threat from China. China's own MILITARY has stated in several papers that they are preparing for just such a war with the west. I've been collecting and following news about and from China since the mid 1980s. There's zero DOUBT in my mind that the Chinese government is preparing for an all out war, and I'm afraid that while I'm not a "military expert" in that respect, there are others who certainly ARE and they agree with me, and back up what I am saying with their own statements.

The CIA put a paper in about 2000 or 2001 citing several Chinese military experts and their papers, and stating that China expected to be at war with the United States by 2012 or so. That's not me making things up. That is from the Chinese' own mouths.

Certain countries will CERTAINLY risk utter destruction. I will cite North Korea (who seems to have backed off considerably at this time) and IRAN as two of the biggest purveyors of hatred of Western civilization. The Chinese have stolen more data and information, and are STILL doing it, and they DAILY attack US military installations in cyber attacks. They have claims that they are set to take down huge portions of the Internet when they are ready to go.

China has dozens of ports in the West now, all fully capable of bringing thousands of troops at a moments notice, they have control of the Panama Canal.

China expects to have a nuclear-based war with us, and believe they can kill us by attrition. They outman us.

yes,many chinese hate america gov.,it's a historical result.But that doesn't mean we are aggressive man.And yes,we'll fight ,but not by war and not your country.We are all fighting to make money and earn us a better life by doing business and construction.Only idiots will seek war,are you?

Many Chinese hate America because they are TOLD to hate America. Contrary to what Liberals in America will tell you, or what the chinese will tell you, the Chinese Government is a COMMUNIST regime and they murder and kill people who disagree with them. They TELL their people to hate us, and give them lies to make them hate us. I know this, I've seen it firsthand. Liberals in America are nothing but closet commies and socialists and they would welcome your people to this country and turn in Americans who don't believe the same way. They are traitors.

The Chinese aren't "fighting" to earn money for themselves, they are doing it for their government. The Chinese government spends it time looking at every way possible to take Taiwan out of the picture, and to embarrass, and perhaps eventually destroy America's power in the world, and for what? A Communist ideology. So, don't sit there telling me that the Chinese are "capitalists". They are COMMUNISTS, and the two economic systems can not and WILL not co-exist, they are mutually exclusive and one WILL destroy the other eventually. When your country becomes Capitalist and allows free elections, and stops placing people in prison or executing them for political reasons, then you can come back and tell me you're fighting to make money - until then, you're lying to yourself.

Finally, your statement on "Only idiots seek war" is not true. People seek war for various reasons and some are "idiocy" certainly. But, tell me then why did Taliban and Muslims seek war on the US and the West? Why does China seek war with Taiwan when it is a FREE country and has FREE elections and is operating under capitalism???? Why did Germany seek war? To be IN POWER throughout the world. Why has China and Japan battled one another for CENTURIES????

No, sir, your country has tried to invoke it's power around the Pacific Rim many times throughout the centuries and has won, and lost. The next time it happens, it won't win.

MY job is point out these things to the American public to POINT OUT WHAT CHINA is DOING to SHOW they are preparing for war, so Americans are not taken unawares. The more you sit and deny the truth, the less people will listen. Eventually, America will be sleeping when the first missiles take out several cities, and it will simply be a mop-up operation for China.

I Certainly WILL fight then. Every man, woman and child will fight in this country. Not one of us will stand down, and even the Liberals will finally understand.

But, you know what? I don't seek war, I seek to thwart it, to prevent it from happening. I don't seek to hide the truth, I expect it to be told over and over until people understand and do what they can to STOP such a war from ever happening. Keeping China from doing so is my goal. Don't try to make it seems as if I seek war, when all I do is seek to prevent it.
90 posted on 05/14/2008 8:52:48 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: adcycn
We are all fighting to make money and earn us a better life by doing business and construction.

That is encouraging....Keep after it....

92 posted on 05/14/2008 8:57:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: adcycn

Adcycn,

With all that I said before, I want you to understand something. I met many people when I stayed in Chengdu. Most were very nice people, but many were nothing more than nice spies. They wanted anything and everything they could get from me and my team.

I feel very bad and sorry for China and the dead and dying, those trapped and the families of those affected. There is little I can do from here, but I will say that, although 99.9% of your country does NOT follow religion or believe in God, I do and will continue to pray for your people there.

Since you’re on the internet, I take it you were not affected directly, and your power and communications connections are still online.

Perhaps YOU should be out there helping your fellow people in China, instead of sitting here accusing Americans of hatred when that isn’t the case.

Good luck with your country’s plight and I’m SURE the US will, against all odds come forward with literally BILLIONS of dollars in aid monies to your country, even against MY wishes. I think our money would be better spent helping those trapped in Burma, and the Taiwanese people instead. But that’s just me.


94 posted on 05/14/2008 9:01:51 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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