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Now (Indian)Navy wants Super Hornets too
The Hindustan Times ^ | May 14, 2008 | Rahul Singh

Posted on 05/13/2008 6:29:42 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Now Navy wants Super Hornets too

It Is now sufficiently clear that the Indian Navy wants to be able to use the air force’s assets of war. In a revelation so far kept under wraps, the Navy has asked Boeing a contender for India’s $10-billion tender for 126 air force fighters if the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet can operate off the INS Vikramaditya, the rechristened Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov currently being refurbished in Russia for the Indian Navy. None of the fighters in the IAF’s existing fleet have the capability to operate from the deck of an aircraft carrier.

Boeing’s campaign manager for the Indian deal Michael E. Rietz has revealed that after detailed simulations conducted at the company’s test centres, the Super Hornet on offer to India, can in fact operate off the Gorshkov. The significance of Boeing’s finding lies in the fact that the Super Hornet – which by default is launched using a steam-powered catapult on American super-carriers – has never before been known to be able to take off from an angled ski-jump – the launch mechanism on India’s sole aircraft carrier INS Virat, as well as the Gorshkov and the under-construction indigenous aircraft carrier.

Rietz told HT at Lemoore, which holds half of the US Navy’s striking power in the Pacific, “In our simulation, we discovered that not only could the Super Hornet take-off from a ski-jump, but could do so with a significant weapons load.” Landing the Super Hornet on the Gorshkov would pose no problem since the warship comes equipped with an arrester cable. The 16 MiG-29K fighters that will come with the Gorshkov will land using this “trap” method.

A typical scenario illustrates the import of the newly identified ability. A Super Hornet flying with the air force from a shore base can fly hundreds of kilometres over the sea, then land on an aircraft carrier, refuel and proceed onward. The reach advantage it would give the aircraft is something the air force has only envisaged with mid-air refuellers so far. Aircraft carriers, by their very nature, can obviously stay out at sea for far longer.

In 2004, the Navy had sent out a request for information to another American firm Northrop Grumman about whether the latter’s carrier-based airborne early warning and control aircraft, the E-2 Hawkeye, could operate off the Gorshkov. However, plans to procure the aircraft in a ship-based role have since been shelved.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; f16; f18; india; navair; superhornet
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1 posted on 05/13/2008 6:30:06 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

First Australia and now India!

Keep cranking out those Hornets!


2 posted on 05/13/2008 6:34:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

While I love that the Aussie have superior fighter power, I am wondering if this is a good idea for us to allow the 18’s to go to India.


3 posted on 05/13/2008 6:37:34 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: Incorrigible
Boeing F/A-18 Hornets

The combat-proven F/A-18 Hornet is a twin-engine, multi-mission, tactical aircraft. It converts between air-to-air fighter missions and air-to-ground strike missions while on the same sortie with the flick of a switch. Currently serving the armed services of eight nations, the F/A-18 fulfills the following types of assignment: fighter escort, suppression of enemy air defenses, reconnaissance, forward air control, close air support, and day and night strike missions.


4 posted on 05/13/2008 6:38:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
gotta have pics!


5 posted on 05/13/2008 6:39:28 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
Might be our best help against the islamofascists and the chicoms?
6 posted on 05/13/2008 6:41:05 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

It certainly wont be as bad an idea as sending F-16s to Pakistan and F-15s to Saudi Arabia.


7 posted on 05/13/2008 6:41:15 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: NormsRevenge
detailed simulations conducted at the company’s test centres, the Super Hornet on offer to India, can in fact operate off the Gorshkov.

Who's going to be the first pilot of the real test?!

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8 posted on 05/13/2008 6:42:41 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

India has not decided to buy the Super Hornet. For what it’s worth, the French Rafale and Russian Mig-35 also have varying degrees of carrier compatibility.The crucial fact being that both countries have a closer defense relationship with India.


9 posted on 05/13/2008 6:43:01 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
While I love that the Aussie have superior fighter power, I am wondering if this is a good idea for us to allow the 18’s to go to India.

China is a threat to India, so I say go ahead. Besides, the US would send F-22s against any enemy with F/A-18s. That would be no contest. F/A 18 is the best fighter not the F-22 and upcoming JSF.

10 posted on 05/13/2008 6:50:22 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But no other nation has the carrier ops expertise of the U.S. Navy.


11 posted on 05/13/2008 6:51:43 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
F/A 18 is the best fighter not the F-22 and upcoming JSF.

You have that backwards.

Besides, the US would send F-22s against any enemy with F/A-18s.

Where would they stage from to reach south Asia?

12 posted on 05/13/2008 6:57:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Deuteronomy 7:20
Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed.


13 posted on 05/13/2008 7:04:56 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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To: magslinger

ping


14 posted on 05/13/2008 7:13:03 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: sukhoi-30mki; paddles

but of course they do!


15 posted on 05/13/2008 7:14:00 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: Incorrigible
Who's going to be the first pilot of the real test?!

They'd try it at a shore facility first, using increasingly (decreasingly?) shorter runs.

My Mk.1 eyeballs have seen a few SuperBug flight demos at airshows and I believe that it could do it. While the demos aren't as impressive as the F-22A (which can literally stand on its tail and then execute thrust-vectoring enabled backflips), the E/F Hornet can stand on its tail and then accelerate near-vertically into push-overs. I've also seen one fly down the runway at 25-30 knots forward airspeed while maintaining a constant altitude with a 60-70 degree angle of attack.
16 posted on 05/13/2008 7:33:00 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder what the MTOW would be for a ski jump takeoff?


17 posted on 05/13/2008 7:34:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Excellent. Closer military ties with the world’s largest democracy are a good thing.


18 posted on 05/13/2008 8:13:32 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Forget about it, McRino. I don't vote for ecofascists.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Gun kill of a Raptor by a Super Hornet.


19 posted on 05/13/2008 8:49:55 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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20 posted on 05/14/2008 4:37:30 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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