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1 posted on 05/13/2008 12:22:25 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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If Rick Warren is a part of this new "manifesto", I would proceed cautiously...

He, like Jimmy Carter, likes to meet with the dictators of the world.

2 posted on 05/13/2008 12:36:19 PM PDT by what's up
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It really doesn’t look bad but I just wish they had left out the word “innovation”. That has become a very “loaded” term to me personally and, I am sure, many others. Really a small quibble.


6 posted on 05/13/2008 12:50:23 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (The good guys must breed and continue to do so, or it is all for naught- A Smart Man)
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The evangelical manifesto was written a long time ago and finished around 2000 years ago.


8 posted on 05/13/2008 1:24:51 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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read later


9 posted on 05/13/2008 2:25:43 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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I disagree with this paragraph in particular:

“The declaration’s bottom line: “We should neither privatize nor politicize faith; the church should be identified neither with the religious right nor the religious left.”

So the Church should be apolitical. That’s good as a general goal, but the Church is also preach righteousness and if one or more parties support sin, the Church ought to oppose that.

“In contrast with “being unquestioning conservatives and unreserved supporters of tradition and the status quo, “

This is a straw man. Neither Christians nor conservatives are unquestioning nor “unreserved supporters of tradition and the status quo.” This is a false assumption and statement. A quick counter example: slavery was the status quo when Christians challenged it and changed the western world within a hundred years.

“being Evangelical means an ongoing commitment to Jesus Christ, and this entails innovation, renewal, reformation, and entrepreneurial dynamism. . . . “

Rather vague and odd to use the language of business. It is better to use the Biblical language—go to all the world, preach the gospel in season and out of season, follow the Holy Spirit wherever He leads.

“Evangelicals part company with reactionaries by being both reforming and innovative, but they also part company with modern progressives by challenging the ideal of the-newer-the-truer and the-latest-is-greatest by conserving what is true and right and good.”

This last could be said of any conservative. Another straw man and erroneous assumption.

Why do these people have the right to define evangelism, why should their opinion matter, and what difference will it make? Answers: they don’t have the right to define it, their opinion doesn’t matter, and they will make no difference to the work of God.


11 posted on 05/13/2008 4:56:41 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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