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Daughter fails math test, so dad thrown in jail
WorldNutDaily ^ | 11 May 2008 | Staff Writer

Posted on 05/12/2008 12:49:06 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

A northern Kentucky man is in jail today – serving a 180-day sentence – because his 18-year-old daughter failed a math test and didn't get her General Equivalency Diploma, or GED, as a previous court order required.

Brittany Gegner, the daughter, says if anyone should be jailed, it should be her.

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Butler County Juvenile Court Judge David Niehaus ordered Gegner to jail for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by not following a court order which required Gegner to be sure his daughter got her GED.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: judicialtyrants; stupidjudges
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To: Squawk 8888

“Progressive infantilization of citizens” is right. So what if these kids want to drop out? It’s called freedom. With freeedom come consequences, which are on them. I don’t believe that the state or parents can or should make these kids do anything.


41 posted on 05/12/2008 1:46:58 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary is the national equivalent of Tracy Flick)
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To: Tamar1973

Hmm, interesting point...


42 posted on 05/12/2008 1:48:03 PM PDT by piytar
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To: All
I said this on another thread with this same article and I will say it here. If anyone thinks the state actually has a constitutional right(not a "legal" right but a constitutional right)to tell you, or your kids, that they have to be in school, let alone actually force then to get a diploma or pass the GED, then you are not conservatives. The states started these school laws with the intention(always "good" intentions and unintended consequences)of allowing(not forcing)kids who wanted to go to school instead of bringing in the crops in the fall, to attend school even against their parents wishes. Lots of farmers, and to be honest others also, wouldn't let their kids go to school in the fall and spring.

Like all misguided but well intended laws that interfere with our freedoms these laws escalated out of control. We don't need the state to make it unlawful to attend school, we don't need the state to jail parents because their kids don't go to school.

What we need is for the state to stay the hell out of our lives, all parts of it, except for the bare minimum which I won't go into here, and let us, as parents, take care of our kids as we see fit.

Some of you will twist my words thinking that I mean we should be able to abuse our children(which I don't believe at all), mainly because you are not real conservatives and will use any argument to justify the fact you let the state control you and your children.

Get the government out of our lives, just as many children would graduate as do now, maybe more. They had high graduation rates in the past without all these crappy laws(and kids were better educated) and they would now if these laws were dropped.

43 posted on 05/12/2008 1:53:42 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; All

I think there is more to this story than what is being said imho..


44 posted on 05/12/2008 1:57:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis (John McCain "08")
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To: wideawake
Aside from the issue of the reputation of a cluster of lawyer-party sensitive New Age guys (SNAGs: false rivals of the man-haters), it's not legally feasible to try to force a 16-18-year-old woman to stay with a particular parent of the two. Young people of that age can go to either parent as they wish in at least some states. And the mother might have had some extensive time ordered by the court, for all that we know (little). The father might have only been the primary custodian. The press will often say that such a parent simply had "custody."

We need to shut down feminism/romanticism (along with no-fault divorce) and schools administered and funded by the Government. And abolish the doctrine of parens patriae (which allows governments to usurp the rights of parents).

[Disclaimer: I'm not an attorney. If you need legal advice, contact a licensed attorney. This is a discussion of public policy.]

[Caution: divorce lawyers have their spines removed in law schools.]


45 posted on 05/12/2008 1:59:47 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Village of idiots... why hasn’t the local country-folk there in Kentucky taken this judge out and hanged him yet????

VERY simple explanation...are ya ready? Because the judge is in Butler County OHIO. The dad lives in Northern Kentucky.

46 posted on 05/12/2008 2:01:31 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: microgood; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The father lives in Kentucky. The daughter lives with her mother in Ohio goes to school there. It is Ohio that has put the man in jail.

Strange story.

47 posted on 05/12/2008 2:17:15 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yet another judge who should be removed from the bench.


48 posted on 05/12/2008 2:18:30 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: hamboy
WorldNutDaily? Is that typo or you really mean WND.Com articles are nutty?

It means that (in general) I think WND articles are nutty.

49 posted on 05/12/2008 2:29:29 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: visualops

She didn’t believe the court would really follow through because I have a feeling her parents never followed through on much of anything raising her. She got a heck of a surprise.


50 posted on 05/12/2008 2:48:01 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

1.You are correct, the father has practically no way to “legally” force her to study.
2. And how did the role of the State to educate childrens has become a mandate to jail the parents?


51 posted on 05/12/2008 2:49:20 PM PDT by PieroC (pieroc)
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To: tatsinfla

The crime that she committed in the first place occured while she was a minor (16 yo). Part of the “rehabilitation” was for her to get her GED and her father, as the guardian of the juvie, was supposed to make sure she did whatever needed to be done to get the GED. He went derelict in his duty by letting her live w/ her mom and now he’s in the pokey himself.


52 posted on 05/12/2008 2:51:17 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Tamar1973

Methink the teacher shall go to jail, why the father? Did the judge give him power to forcibly restrain the kid?


53 posted on 05/12/2008 3:01:33 PM PDT by PieroC (pieroc)
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To: Tamar1973

Methink the teacher shall go to jail, why the father? Did the judge give him power to forcibly restrain the kid?


54 posted on 05/12/2008 3:01:39 PM PDT by PieroC (pieroc)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Lesson Learned:

Don’t name your daughter “Brittany.”

The name alone eliminates 20 points of potential IQ.


55 posted on 05/12/2008 3:14:32 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Lazamataz

Nice Job Brittany.

Perhaps you should do your homework at a desk in your room and not at the coffee table in front of the TV.


56 posted on 05/12/2008 3:16:01 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
"Rocket Surgeon"??

You would prefer "Brain Scientist"?

57 posted on 05/12/2008 3:36:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Holy State or Holy King - Or Holy People's Will - Have no truck with the senseless thing)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
FTA" because his 18-year-old daughter failed a math test and didn't get her General Equivalency Diploma, or GED, as a previous court order required.

The judge ordered him to get her to school and get her to finish her GED because she was a truant. She/they didn't. She turned 18.

She/they doubtless thought "she's 18 now, whatchagonna do?

They didn't follow his order before she turned 18. They pay the price.

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"I'm about to be 19 and my Dad's being punished for something I did when I was 16," she said.

No where in the law do you get to ignore the judge's order by running out the clock.

See: "A judge ordered the father to stay on top of his daughter's education months ago and when that order wasn't followed, Brian Gegner was sentenced to 180-days in the Butler County jail."

From: http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=28d2acca-9947-44cc-8831-9859f1f6137e

58 posted on 05/12/2008 4:28:29 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Tamar1973

so she can’t pass the math portion of her ged test...that is a crime...some people have problems in math...God knows i did despite how much i studied....how many out there in freeper land have seen the math portion of a ged test....??...its not as easy as 1 + 1 = 2 or 10/2 = 5

and for this we are now putting people in jail....jail is meant for people that commit crimes against society, not for people or parents of people that can not pass a math test.......


59 posted on 05/13/2008 5:05:04 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: familyop
it's not legally feasible to try to force a 16-18-year-old woman to stay with a particular parent of the two. Young people of that age can go to either parent as they wish in at least some states

People on FR rightly criticize inner city biological fathers all the time for abandoning their children, not raising them right, allowing their kids to grow up to be anti-social clowns.

This girl is 18. She has an 18 month old. She was pregnant at 16 at most, maybe 15.

She was an effective dropout and having a bastard child when she was his legal responsibility - not to mention his moral responsibility.

As a father, that is an epic fail.

Is his punishment appropriate? That's a matter of debate. But it cannot be debated that he ****ed up.

60 posted on 05/13/2008 5:27:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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