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Air Combat by Remote Control
Wall Street Journal ^
 | 12 May 2008
 | By BRIAN M. CARNEY
Posted on 05/12/2008 10:07:01 AM PDT by shrinkermd
The sniper never knew what hit him. The Marines patrolling the street below were taking fire, but did not have a clear shot at the third-story window that the sniper was shooting from. They were pinned down and called for reinforcements. 
Help came from a Predator drone circling the skies 20 miles away. As the unmanned plane closed in, the infrared camera underneath its nose picked up the muzzle flashes from the window. The sniper was still firing when the Predator's 100-pound Hellfire missile came through the window and eliminated the threat. 
The airman who fired that missile was 8,000 miles away, here at Creech Air Force Base, home of the 432nd air wing. The 432nd officially "stood up," in the jargon of the Air Force, on May 1, 2007. One year later, two dozen of its drones patrol the skies over Iraq and Afghanistan every hour of every day. And almost all of them are flown by two-man crews sitting in the air-conditioned comfort of a "ground control station" (GCS) in the Nevada desert
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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; creechafb; drones; iraq; miltech; uav; usaf; wot
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To: Joe Brower
    I understand your concerns and share them.
 
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posted on 
05/12/2008 10:38:51 AM PDT
by 
mcshot
(Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever.)
 
To: Joe Brower
    On a related note...the "sniper" was definitely an idiot. Who in their right mind "pins down" anybody with first-world fighting capabilities? Did the moron think that because they were pinned down by him that he had the upper hand? Sheesh...He should have "unassed the AO" once he realized that they weren't moving. What did he think they were doing? But I'm grateful in this case that he got the Darwin Award for Stupid Terrorists.
 
 The only time a sniper should "stay put" is if he knows that his support elements have control over the ground and the air. This guy's "support elements" obviously didn't. :-)
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posted on 
05/12/2008 10:40:58 AM PDT
by 
hiredhand
(Check my "about" page.  I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
 
To: shrinkermd
    I can only hope that the video becomes public.
 
23
posted on 
05/12/2008 10:43:17 AM PDT
by 
Hacklehead
(Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
 
To: Walkingfeather
    Or... as I’m fond of saying,
“nothing left but hair, teeth, and eyes...”; or,
“not enough to scrape up with a stick and a spoon.”
:D
Hoss
 
24
posted on 
05/12/2008 10:47:13 AM PDT
by 
HossB86
 
To: vietvet67
    The interesting thing about blanketing an entire country with them....is that you have to have a real pilot (who makes in the $60-$90k range of pay) flying each one of those. The AF won’t accept the idea of a lesser ranked guy (like the Army does it)....and they currently run around and talk of the vast shortage of Predator pilots...because real pilots don’t want to fly UAVs.
 
To: HossB86
To: potlatch
27
posted on 
05/12/2008 11:01:03 AM PDT
by 
devolve
( -- -The_Project_Islamic_Hope_website_banner no_longer_features_Barack_Hussein_Obama_Junior)
 
To: pepsionice
    That’s always been a problem with the AF; 21st century generals with 1940s brains. Take the Predators away from the AF and let the Army and Marines have them with NCO controllers.
 
28
posted on 
05/12/2008 11:06:27 AM PDT
by 
RJS1950
(The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
 
To: pepsionice
    It isn’t the salary of a pilot against a private that’s prohibitive, it’s the two or three million dollars they spent training the pilot to fly real planes.
Your tax dollars at work.
 
29
posted on 
05/12/2008 11:20:01 AM PDT
by 
CGTRWK
 
To: CGTRWK
    The beautiful thing about the Reaper is, it can tool around at high altitudes, for hours at a time, say 14 hours, and the enemy has not idea that the Reaper is there. I live in Las Vegas, and we are very proud of the Creech facility and the people that man the instillation
 
30
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:01:23 PM PDT
by 
BooBoo1000
(Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
 
To: CGTRWK
    The beautiful thing about the Reaper is, it can tool around at high altitudes, for hours at a time, say 14 hours, and the enemy has not idea that the Reaper is there. I live in Las Vegas, and we are very proud of the Creech facility and the people that man the instillation
 
31
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:01:37 PM PDT
by 
BooBoo1000
(Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
 
To: shrinkermd; freema; jazusamo
32
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:11:44 PM PDT
by 
dcwusmc
(We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
 
To: Joe Brower
    I'd hate to see these capabilities turned against American citizens, IYKWIM... That's a big part of my new novel. I'm even considering a Predator silhouette over the USA for the book cover.
 
33
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:26:46 PM PDT
by 
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
 
To: hiredhand
    Snipers with a 72 virgin death wish might not be using our SOPs.
34
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:28:59 PM PDT
by 
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
 
To: Joe Brower
     Things sure have changed a lot since I was in the service. I'd hate to see these capabilities turned against American citizens, IYKWIM...
 
 Exactly what I was thinking...all skirmishes are now worth engaging.
35
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:29:06 PM PDT
by 
TxAg1981
 
To: CGTRWK; Squantos
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the pilot rank irony goes even further. I believe that the actual take offs and landings are conducted by NCO’s at the local Iraqi air base, and the Predators are only “handed off” to the distant controllers when they are safely airborne.
So the “hard part” of the flying is not even done by the pilot officers, (USAF Pilots Union), that is 7,000 miles away.
 
36
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:31:46 PM PDT
by 
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
 
To: Travis McGee
37
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:34:17 PM PDT
by 
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.  ©)
 
To: UCANSEE2
    Nothing like the Blue Screen of Death on the instrument panels. 
Funny, thats what the AF pilots sitting in the team chairs call it when they tell the Predator to fire the missile. 
Say goodbye Ahab, here comes the Blue Screen of Death.Sounds more humane than "Death by PowerPoint"...
 
38
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:35:54 PM PDT
by 
FDNYRHEROES
(Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
 
To: Squantos
    Evryboddy nows you ken’t hav mere inlisted swine fliyng areoplanes. It jest woodent werk. No way, no how.
 
39
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:36:43 PM PDT
by 
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
 
To: dcwusmc; shrinkermd; freema
    Excellent! That Hellfire ruined the snipers whole day and then some. :-)
Thanks for the ping.
 
40
posted on 
05/12/2008 12:44:28 PM PDT
by 
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
 
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