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Drudge Report, Fox News falsely smear Gore
Grist ^ | May 10, 2008 | Brad Johnson

Posted on 05/12/2008 9:18:13 AM PDT by cogitator

Excerpted below:

... On May 6, Jeff Poor wrote for the Business & Media Institute (BMI) a story entitled, "Al Gore Calls Myanmar Cyclone a 'Consequence' of Global Warming," which was subsequently linked on the Drudge Report. Poor claims:

"Using tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists, and it was just a matter of time before someone found a way to tie the recent Myanmar cyclone to global warming."

Poor wrote that Gore said in an interview on National Public Radio, "The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China -- and we're seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming."

In fact, the audio clip has been doctored and the conclusion that "Al Gore Calls Myanmar Cyclone a 'Consequence' of Global Warming" is false. Here are the facts:

# Gore Said Myanmar Cyclone Is Not A Consequence Of Global Warming. The BMI headline ignores that Gore says in the interview that "any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming -- we've always had hurricanes."

# Gore Properly Described Relationship Between Storms And Global Warming. In the interview, Gore discussed Nargis and the devastating storms that struck China in 2006 (Typhoon Saomai) and Bangladesh in 2007 (Cyclone Sidr). He goes on to say that "the emerging consensus" among climate scientists is that the "the trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming, and specifically to the impact of global warming on higher ocean temperatures in the top couple of hundred feet of the ocean, which drives convection energy and moisture into these storms and makes them more powerful."

* Story Presents False Clip Of Interview. The audio clip included with the online story includes two segments that have been spliced together, out of order, to mislead the listener as to Gore's actual meaning. The actual transcript (see below) makes it clear Gore was saying that the "consequences" of global warming we're seeing was the melting of the polar ice cap, which is unequivocally due to anthropogenic climate change.

* Business & Media Institute Is Part Of Right-Wing Message Machine. BMI is a right-wing "free-enterprise" front group that is part of Brent Bozell's conservative media machine, the Media Research Center.

The actual transcript reveals that Gore was speaking in response to a question about conservative pastor John Hagee's claim in a 2006 interview with Terry Gross that "Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climate; climatechange; cyclone; globalwarming; gore; interview
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To: cogitator

>>I know there were a couple of threads here inspired by the original report, and I think at least one of them was triggered by the Drudge Report or a source that picked up this topic from Drudge originally<<

Can you link to those?


21 posted on 05/12/2008 9:40:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironman. (but made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: jennyjenny
Did you look at this site:

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/05/09/right-wing-gore-cyclone/

That has a "Drudge Report" headline capture that shows the Gore item.

And I just searched the Drudge Report. Follow this link:

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dsp/search.htm?searchFor=Gore

Here's the first link found in the search:

"Gore Calls Cyclone 'Consequence' of Global Warming ... ^
From the May 06, 2008 20:48:37 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.

These link to the Business and Media site. Ah, interesting editor's note:

Editor's Note: Clarification: The original audio for this story included two accurate audio clips but placed in the incorrect order. They are now included on this story as separate clips. For the full NPR interview, click here."

I'm glad they made the correction. Unfortunately the can't correct all the blogosphere echoes that were inspired by it, like "Al Gore: Eater of the Dead", etc. And I note that BMI didn't change the title of the piece, either, which is still inaccurate. Oh well.

22 posted on 05/12/2008 9:41:18 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Liberty Valance

Hysterical :-).

So it is writtne, so shall it be done.


23 posted on 05/12/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: cogitator

You can’t falsely smear a guy like Gore.


24 posted on 05/12/2008 9:45:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: cogitator
"I'll probably be attacked for posting this. But integrity and accuracy SHOULD be important in trying to address this complex issue. It's stunning how much this doctored interview got circulated in the right-wing blogosphere...:

Not by me you wont - except for your implication that only the 'right wing blogsphere' lies. I won't alibi for this event but note that the left does the same in prime time.

" And yes, the melting of the polar ice cap is not unequivocally due to anthropogenic climate change. Gore didn't say that either, but the writer of this piece mistakenly did."

Gore isn't unequivocally responsible for the global warming panic but the apparently bogus report is totally, unequivocally, in character with his profit motivated blatherings. The people who responded to the report may have been misled but they were not unreasonable in accepting the report.

By the by, given the 'if it isn't Bush's fault it must be global warming' mantra Gore and the disaster cult has been so consistent on - is there a message in big Al's not assigning this particular disaster to their favorite cause?

25 posted on 05/12/2008 9:45:49 AM PDT by norton
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To: cogitator
Gore Said Myanmar Cyclone Is Not A Consequence Of Global Warming.

If this is true, it would be shocking that the Global Warming whore himself would say such a thing.

I haven't heard the interview, so my question would be, why is this guy more credible than those who supposedly 'doctored' the audio clip?

26 posted on 05/12/2008 9:45:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

From what I can see, he said that one storm can’t be blamed on it but all storms can. Here is his quote from that article...

“Gore Properly Described Relationship Between Storms And Global Warming. In the interview, Gore discussed Nargis and the devastating storms that struck China in 2006 (Typhoon Saomai) and Bangladesh in 2007 (Cyclone Sidr). He goes on to say that “the emerging consensus” among climate scientists is that the “the trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming, and specifically to the impact of global warming on higher ocean temperatures in the top couple of hundred feet of the ocean, which drives convection energy and moisture into these storms and makes them more powerful.”


27 posted on 05/12/2008 9:49:26 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironman. (but made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: cogitator

Gore?


28 posted on 05/12/2008 9:49:39 AM PDT by ronnieb
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To: netmilsmom
Gore: Deadly Cyclone a Consequence of Global Warming

Al Gore: Eater of the Dead

And in case you want to know on what Gore bases many of his statements:

New MIT study validates hurricane prediction: Provides confirmation that climate change intensifies storms

And if you really want to get into it, wade through the comments here:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2994

Judith Curry's at #6 is particularly useful.

29 posted on 05/12/2008 9:50:58 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: netmilsmom; calex59

See post 29 (probably right above this one).


30 posted on 05/12/2008 9:52:06 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

But you have to understand that there is a difference between “Climate Change” (naturally occuring)
And the “Man Made Climate Change” that Gore is pushing.

Don’t you see?


31 posted on 05/12/2008 9:55:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironman. (but made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: calex59
I have heard him say it numerous times, and anyone who thinks, and promotes a lie that we can control the weather deserves to be smeared, with whatever we can do to stop this grifter.
32 posted on 05/12/2008 9:55:18 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: cogitator

And I’m sorry but I have a really tough time taking facts from here

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/05/09/right-wing-gore-cyclone/

This is the original article. How many times do they use “right-wing”?


33 posted on 05/12/2008 9:58:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironman. (but made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: cogitator

And who really gives a carp about anything Gore or this rag Grist has to say. Whatever Gore says is a lie anyway - taken in or out of contetx.

But I really do like this Internet thingy of his. /s

34 posted on 05/12/2008 10:03:23 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: cogitator

Thank you for this. I didn’t comment negatively about this as I read it on Drudge; however, I snorted and thought to myself how consistently stupid his arguments were.

It is wrong to doctor anything and attribute it to someone. I will, grudgingly, stand behind Gore on this one.


35 posted on 05/12/2008 10:17:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: cogitator
I'll probably be attacked for posting this. But integrity and accuracy SHOULD be important in trying to address this complex issue.

We agree on something, I see.

And yes, the melting of the polar ice cap is not unequivocally due to anthropogenic climate change. Gore didn't say that either, but the writer of this piece mistakenly did.

In your opinion, which is it? Is the word "not" meant to be in your statement? For the record, I don't believe that any melting of the polar ice cap is due to anthropogenic climate change [note how the hot words used by the believers are now "climate change" not "global warming"].

Here is something for the reader to look at and draw your own conclusion:

Arctic sea ice, May 11, 2008 compared to May 11, 1983

36 posted on 05/12/2008 10:17:21 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those who so obviously hate it?)
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To: netmilsmom
I guess we just have to consider whether the audio interview clip that was provided by the Business and Media Institute Web site was an accurate representation of what Al Gore actually said, and also whether what they said about it was useful to the debate. My opinion is that it was not useful.

I'm not surprised that the BMI article was picked up by other conservative outlets, nor am I surprised that a liberal Web site characterizes conservative sources as "right-wing".

37 posted on 05/12/2008 10:21:25 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: aflaak

ping... read cogitator’s about page


38 posted on 05/12/2008 10:24:23 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (If you're not taking flak, you're not over the target.)
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To: Hildy; cogitator
I plan on printing out and reading you personal page here at FR. It looks very interesting and I will approach it with an open mind. You sound like you know what you’re talking about. Alot here, don’t. I stay away from threads like this because I truly don’t know the facts of the issue. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

A lot of us on here disagree with cogitator's "knowledge." I suggest you get the other side of the story by looking at the "denier" websites. Here is just one:
http://www.icecap.us/

And while you're at it, look at the contributors to the website and their credentials:
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/experts

39 posted on 05/12/2008 10:27:47 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama says he loves America. So why does he associate with those who so obviously hate it?)
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To: cogitator
Story Presents False Clip Of Interview. The audio clip included with the online story includes two segments that have been spliced together, out of order, to mislead the listener as to Gore's actual meaning. The actual transcript (see below) makes it clear Gore was saying that the "consequences" of global warming we're seeing was the melting of the polar ice cap, which is unequivocally due to anthropogenic climate change.

Bravo sierra! Unless I have personally seen an unedited video of the entire interview, I specifically reserve the right to cast doubt on the flipping transcript!

And this author is an unequivocal a$$hat for his unequivocal anthropogenic brain fart!

40 posted on 05/12/2008 10:32:04 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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