Posted on 05/12/2008 5:26:37 AM PDT by JRochelle
SOUTH JORDAN — Dan Fischer is conflicted. He is considered an "apostate" because he left the Fundamentalist LDS Church; yet he also wants to help family members inside the polygamous sect, whose children were taken from them in the Texas raid on thue YFZ Ranch. He feels empathy for his kin, yet he also abhors the abuses he says exist in the FLDS community.
Fischer has devoted part of his life — and his dental-products manufacturing fortune — to helping teenagers kicked out of the polygamous sect, and he is now trying to help mediate the massive custody battle between Texas and the FLDS people. He recently traveled to San Angelo, Texas, where he says he met with officials for Texas child protective services and a representative of the FLDS Church.
"What is most important, here and now, is what occurs going forward," he said.
The invitation was initially made by a member of the FLDS Church, Fischer said. He declined to say with whom he met.
"I asked him what it was in regards to, and he explained that they were looking for whatever help they could get," he said in an interview with the Deseret News. "Why me?"
Fischer, a dentist who founded the company Ultradent, left the FLDS Church in 1996. He has sheltered people leaving the FLDS Church and created a foundation to help the so-called "Lost Boys." They are teenagers who have either been kicked out or run away from the FLDS Church over its strict codes of conduct.
Still, he flew to Texas, accompanied by attorney Roger Hoole, who has represented numerous ex-FLDS members suing the church. "He is someone who could assist both sides in exploring solutions," Hoole said of Fischer. "If there's interest in that."
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Not surprising. They are all kin.
Polygamy Ping.
Early on I watched an interview with a man that was kicked out of FLDS and I believe his wife (wives?) and children were given to another man. The reporter tried to chase that angle and the man acted as though he deserved to be kicked out- seemed to still think the FLDS was right- and then would not go into it with the reporter. I was struck by that interview- here is a man who was one of the abused himself and seems to still take the side of the FLDS. He also spoke of family who had children taken away by CPS, and had offered to help any way he could. I don’t know if his children were taken, but he made it sound like his children were elsewhere, still he wanted to help. I could understand him wanting to help family- but not his defending FLDS after what happened to him.
Maybe he views it as a bargain. With one wife, divorce can be difficult - could one man imagine the possibility of dividing things up with more than one? Maybe he wanted someone to take them off his hands and ain’t complaining.
Stories like this break my heart.
Many abused kids want to stay with their parents too. I have no idea why, but more than likely this is a lifetime of training for this guy and since he has been taught that whatever the prophet says is from God, who is he to argue?
susie
Well you may have a point there. Once a good friend of hubby’s had a wife that ran off with another man. The friend found the guy’s phone number on his bill and called him up to chat. He told the guy he had no hard feelings over the deal and if he ever ran into him somewhere he would buy him a drink- and then added that if he had that woman around for a while he would need someone to buy him drinks becuase he wouldn’t have any money to buy his own. I thought that was so funny, and have always wondered what the guy thought about his attitude. The guy didn’t keep our friend’s wife long either so I guess he did realize he didn’t get a bargain.
That is what brainwashing sounds like.
I see it all the time. Wife runs off with another man, takes the house, the vehicle, the dog, and the guy misses the dog, but otherwise he is as happy as a lark.
Just thought I post something readable today.
Notice verse three especially.
Psalms 146
1 Praise the LORD.
Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 I will praise the LORD all my life;
I will sing praise to my God as long as I live.
3 Do not put your trust in princes,
in mortal men, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
5 Blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
whose hope is in the LORD his God,
6 the Maker of heaven and earth,
the sea, and everything in them—
the LORD, who remains faithful forever.
7 He upholds the cause of the oppressed
and gives food to the hungry.
The LORD sets prisoners free,
8 the LORD gives sight to the blind,
the LORD lifts up those who are bowed down,
the LORD loves the righteous.
9 The LORD watches over the alien
and sustains the fatherless and the widow,
but he frustrates the ways of the wicked.
10 The LORD reigns forever,
your God, O Zion, for all generations.
Praise the LORD.
The brainwashing goes very deep, even for the men.
In all fairness, there are some men who’s leaving would not cause great distress to the woman (women possibly) in their life either.LOL Women don’t corner the market on being difficult or downright sorry. I loved the commercial a while back that showed the woman dumping the man and his gear at a bar & keeping the dog.
You lie.
;)
The person who wrote that abused children want to stay with their parents was right. Most times this is the case because the abused kid doesn’t know any better. They have no way of knowing that normal parents do not act like this.
Oh!!
I thought this said that the LDS Organization®, based in SLC, was the ones who were helping...
“I could understand him wanting to help family- but not his defending FLDS after what happened to him.”
Isn’t that very similar to abused wives, who refuse to press charges against their spouse, based on some false belief that it was really ‘their fault’, and that if they were to ‘try harder’, their spouse would love them, and never hit them again?
But this is different. There is no divorce, because there is no marriage.
There are only ‘spiritual-marriages’, and JEFFS decides who marries who.
Jeffs performs the ‘divorces’ which had nothing to do with whether the husband and ‘wife’ do, or do not want to be together.
All the money is under Jeffs thumb and the UEP. There is no such thing as alimony with the FLDS group.
Matter of fact, there are a ton of ‘rights’ the FLDS members do not have.
Sure it’s similiar- I don’t understand that either though. Just beyond my comprehension. If a man ever abused me and would not let me leave, he better not go to sleep.
But that is because you know that a man hitting a woman is abuse.
You know that a 20 year old man having sex with a 14 year old girl is rape.
Because they are bonded to, and love their parents. And because they fear the unknown. Remember they have no frame of reference that things would not be even worse somewhere else.
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