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To: nutspea

Your posts frighten me. You seem so “pro government line”. There are reports of journalists being arrested for what? Posting pictures??? If this is the case, our friends in China being arrested, that would be worse for China than the disaster of murdering Tibetan priests. I hope this is not the case. We have “Bush bots” here meaning they are against anyone saying anything against the President but they are pathetic and useless people because they have no power. I hope you are one of those pathetic and useless people spouting the party line but I’m afraid you aren’t. The propaganda you spew has the stench of government protection. We have made many friends here and we would miss them if they were gone. I hope China finally made the decision that’s it’s ok to complain about the government. We do here all the time and it often appears we make no difference but at least we have the right to speak!!


1,246 posted on 05/14/2008 6:47:33 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl; All
you know what?that's how things biased.

We have different opinion on what is most important for people because we have different history and culture.
It IS OK to complain about the government in China.You can find these comments in many big forums.The key is in which way and what results may occur——If someone choose the dangerous way which may cause chaos and more horror,then they should be punished.It's about law,not politics.
I really admire your rights and democracy.Not being that doesn't mean not like it.But for now we want to feed ourselves and make us wealthy ,which is more important than some ideology.Soviet Russia is a example which showed us what will happen if we have a immediate change,the country will collapse into chaos and people will suffer from civil war,we'll lose everything and hungry to death.I guess maybe you watched the film"Lord of War“ acted by Nicolas Cage,and more other films or books.Then maybe you will think deeply for us.
We are a developing country,some of us are fortunate to be rich now while many of us are still poor and struggle for living.We have good people and bad ones also just like any other country.For now most of us dont really hate any foreign country,that's against our culture.
I understand your feeling and please understand ours.Most thing in china are now done by necessary way,not by extreme or horrorable way.

1,255 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:30 PM PDT by adcycn
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To: ozarkgirl

There may exist some misunderstandings between us. I am trying to elaborate my attitudes, any mistakes please be kind to point it out.

Firstly I should state that I am just an undergraduate student, who beheld the sufferings of classmates around me (they either have relatives or friends in the sichuan, although our university does not locate there), and at the same time keeping deep attention at the proceeding of the subsequent rescue, so I truthfully understand what is going on in China.

In the official forum system of our university there is a BBS board where students can post political comments. At that site togother with other peers, we criticize the defects and faults of the current government, and praise its improvements and good deeds. I am neither “pro-gov’ nor “anti-gov”, instead I think and make comments with no bias. I got extremely anger at the corruptions of the current government, and always condemned at the low-effiency of government’ institutes. But at this time, I do find that government performs well in managing this disasters, although improvements are still in need.

At the public tianya bbs system there exist plenty of pictures about the scene of earthquake, such as the collapsed bulidings and injured or dead persons. I also posted some pictures from my classmates on the situation of sichuan. If it is true that to post pictures one may be arrested by the government, there will be more persons, but not just two, will be detained now. BTW, I fails to find to news on this kind of arrest, if you have information on it please feel free to tell me to facilitate me to judge the situation. You know the strength of one person is quite limited, so it is highly appreciated that if others can help me make clear of what really happens.


1,256 posted on 05/14/2008 7:41:37 PM PDT by nutspea
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