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America's Independent Party Provisional Platform
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Posted on 05/11/2008 3:07:06 PM PDT by TBP

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To: Guenevere

Thank you Guenevere...


21 posted on 05/11/2008 4:10:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Could you describe the platform of such a party? That would be an interesting exercise, IMO.

I like a lot of what the Independents have to say, except the lack of explicit support for the WOT. Given the ‘aged’ positions they’ve outlined, I’d be interested in what you might propose.

Thanks...


22 posted on 05/11/2008 4:15:23 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: TBP; DoughtyOne
Yes it does...

Could you be so kind to answer some of the concerns listed by Doughty One and others.

23 posted on 05/11/2008 4:17:38 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: CindyDawg

Fraid I’d have to join you on that count. I didn’t want to go into that, but you’re right from my point of view.


24 posted on 05/11/2008 4:20:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: TBP
we support passage of a federal marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution for the purpose of removing any confusion or misunderstanding in the minds of judges.

So, the federal government should be the arbiter of morals? Isn't the (correct) argument re Roe v Wade that the federal government has no business legislating morality? Isn't that a matter to be left (sink or swim) to the states? Isn't that what federalism is all about? Isn't that how we got into this mess in the first place? And now the Independent Party wants to use the same force of the federal government to enforce its version of morality?

25 posted on 05/11/2008 4:27:25 PM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: DoughtyOne

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26 posted on 05/11/2008 4:35:20 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Drango
Yawnnnnn little more than an effort to split the conservative vote. A POX on your house.

Conservative vote? You mean we've got a conservative candidate among the terrible turds in the front running for president now? Who is it? Is "it" a republican or democrat?

The conservative vote won't be "split"...because it's already been decimated.

I wouldn't be caught dead voting for a democrat, although I've heard that it is possible to be a dead person and vote for a democrat. Neither will I vote for Juan McPain. I'll pencil in a "better" choice, and right now my dead, leg humping dog is a better choice than any of them. Of course I'll find somebody better than my dead dog. But such is the state of "conservative politics" at the moment.

People can wave their GOP flags and talk about the "win", but even if McPain wins, he'll go right back to being cozy with the likes of Ted (hic!) Kennedy, and Feingold and we'll get screwed, but at least we'll get kissed because our man will be a "conservative". Maybe some people will feel better because of it, but it just doesn't do much for me. Abuse of power is abuse of power, whether the tyrant is of the same political party or not, and so far McCain's historical record would show that he's got habits that are pretty much incompatible with conservatism. But hey, let's all smile and sing "Kum-by-ya" because he's a REPUBLICAN....right? :-)

There is NO good for us in the coming presidential elections no matter how we analize it. People might as well come to terms with it now and at least be walking in knowledge that we're going to fare poorly for what's coming...rather than cheer "go team go" and hope blindly and then be all heart broken because we weren't courageous enough to admit the truth to begin with.

But as for a split conservative vote...we're way past that.
27 posted on 05/11/2008 4:44:24 PM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: DoughtyOne; CindyDawg
re #24 & 26

If I may be so bold, DoughtyOne I don't think Cindy meant...'Never mind it's Alan Keyes'....

..I think she meant 'Never mind answering the question, I know it's Alan Keyes.

28 posted on 05/11/2008 4:53:43 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: CindyDawg; pissant
Duncan Hunter will be written in on this Republican's presidential ballot this year come November--voting absentee overseas--will fedex to USA around mid-to-late October time frame.

Between now and then if a legitimate individual who is actually capable of serving as President of the United States (has the necessary free market, government or military leadership credentials over the years, and/or in managing huge budgets and/or leading tens of thousands of people in a large organization with consistently good results), gains ballot access in enough states to signify an Electoral Victory were he/she to take all those states, and his/her party had a solid, conservative platform, has significant name-brand national conservative endorsements, and is noted, hated and most importantly feared or ridiculed by the MSM, then I will switch the Duncan Hunter write-in vote in to an actual vote for such a Conservative Alternative for President. As usual, loyal conservative Republicans for state and local officies will get my vote from there on down, on the ballot.

I will be NOT be voting for ANY socialists or RINOs/liberal-lovers this year for President, take that to the bank! My vote will be on principle and principle alone. That (upon many other choices and subsequent actions in my lifetime) is what I will stand and face my Creator with when that judgement day comes. When I raised my voice, speaking for myself, under oath (which is what a signed ballot actually is) did I tell the truth and say that the names I checked or wrote in represent the best choices for our nation as well as the closest thinking to mine?

Some may do otherwise, but as for me, I am not going to LIE UNDER OATH when that moment comes. I know I can live with my conscience afterward.


29 posted on 05/11/2008 5:08:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Your Free To Vote 4 McCain. I Won't. I Don't Want To Hear Your Gripes Thru His 4 Years of RINO-ism!)
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To: Guenevere
Yes. I asked. Then I went to the site and saw for myself. "Never mind, I know who it is now"

What do yall know about him. He seems like a good man but the reparations issue bugs me. He seems very conservative otherwise though.

30 posted on 05/11/2008 5:46:41 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg; EternalVigilance
I like him..... I would like to hear more about this & his part in it.

Find out the facts on the 'reparations' question.
I don't believe he said it & think some folks are twisting the story.....there are more than a few naysayers on FR who rush to discredit whenever Keyes name is mentioned.

31 posted on 05/11/2008 6:14:57 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Goes without saying ......:o)


32 posted on 05/11/2008 6:23:04 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Guenevere

No harm in learning more about where he stands. Maybe he could come here and talk to us:’)


33 posted on 05/11/2008 6:27:52 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: EternalVigilance

ping


34 posted on 05/11/2008 6:30:22 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We believe in a supremely strong, prepared, and well-equipped civilian-controlled United States military, and a bold, visionary and intelligent program of principled constructive engagement with the rest of the world. For us, "peace through strength" is not a mere slogan. It is the means of survival for our country in a very dangerous and often hostile world. Our friendship should be a sought-after possession of all men and women of good will everywhere in the world. Our enmity should be something that all rightfully fear.

As Ronald Reagan opposed and defeated the designs and desire of the Soviet Union to dominate the world and place it under the tyranny of their Evil Empire, we oppose the Islamic extremists. This opposition is not based in opposition to their religion, but in a complete rejection of their political ideology and actions. Since the first principle of America is the protection of innocent human life, an ongoing state of war exists between us and any who would use acts of terrorism targeted at innocent civilians to forward their political aims.

Just wanted to make sure you saw these paragraphs.

This platform is a work in progress, as the new party gears up. The final product will not be completed until the national convention, which will take place soon.

That's why it's labeled as a "provisional platform." This is just a starting place. A pretty good one, I think.

Suggested revisions, subtractions, or additions are sought and needed. I won't say we'll follow every suggestion, but I guarantee that every suggestion will be thoroughly considered.

For the record, I'm the founder and provisional chairman.

Dr. Keyes is running as an independent. The party is preparing for the future.

By the way: America's Independent Party will endorse candidates based on proven adherence to the American principles, not based on party label.

We believe that the Republican Party, under John Judas McCain, is a dead letter. But that doesn't mean that we think republicanism, or conservatism, or constitutionalism, are. Quite the contrary. They're our only hope.

35 posted on 05/11/2008 7:43:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: Guenevere

Thanks Guenevere!


36 posted on 05/11/2008 7:44:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: Maximum Scrunch; RKBA Democrat; Ron H.; EternalVigilance; CounterCounterCulture; outlawcam; ...

We aspire to having the best platform of any American political party ever.

With your help, that can happen.

There’s an email address you can send your ideas to at http://www.selfgovernment.us .

Stay tuned!

If anyone wants on or off the Keyes ping list, send me a FReepmail.


37 posted on 05/11/2008 7:51:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: browardchad

All laws “legislate morality.” The only question is whose morals are going to be enforced.

The traditional family was given to us by God, is part of the natural order, and is the foundational institution of our entire civilization.

Congress has always had the power to protect it.

I would remind you that several states would not have been allowed into the Union unless they forever forsook plural marriage.


38 posted on 05/11/2008 8:07:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
I wonder if there's a conservative third party that isn't a paleo-conservative outfit.

The leaders of America's Independent Party have always fully supported the War on Terror, and still do.

And the man we endorse for President, Alan Keyes, had the job of fighting state-sponsored terrorism for Ronald Reagan.

39 posted on 05/11/2008 8:11:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: CindyDawg; Guenevere

I appologize CindyDawg. I had thought we agreed on this, but it seems we didn’t. You take care.

Thank you Guenevere. I appreciate you pointing that out.


40 posted on 05/11/2008 8:33:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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