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Vegetable oil fuels cars -- and tax bills
LA Times ^ | 5/9/2008 | Evan Halper

Posted on 05/09/2008 11:13:02 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Diesel owners who switch to cooking grease can run afoul of the law. Just ask the governor.

Dave Eck, a Half Moon Bay mechanic, had attracted a media spotlight with his fleet of vehicles fueled by used fryer grease from a local chowder house. So when Sacramento called, he figured officials wanted advice on promoting alternative fuels.

Not at all. The government rang to notify Eck that he was a tax cheat. He was scolded for failing to get a "diesel fuel supplier's license," reporting quarterly how many gallons of grease he burns, and paying a tax on each gallon.

All of a sudden they nailed me for a road tax," said Eck, who drives a Hummer converted to run on vegetable oil. "I said, 'Not a problem. I'll do my part. But what do I get? At least let me into the carpool lane.' "

No such luck. The state offered Eck only a potentially large fine -- and not just for failing to pay taxes. He can also get in trouble for carting kitchen grease away from eateries without a license from the state Meat and Poultry Inspection Branch.

Or for not having at least $1 million in liability insurance, in case he spills some of the stuff. Or for not getting permission from the state Air Resources Board to burn fat in the first place. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biodiesel; biofuel; energy; tax
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1 posted on 05/09/2008 11:13:02 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Land of the free...Home of the brave...


2 posted on 05/09/2008 11:15:39 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: bruinbirdman

Can you say Government control? If you do not think our government is out of control, read the article again. Every license listed is a TAX.


3 posted on 05/09/2008 11:16:52 AM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: Bobalu

Another reason to get out of Kalifornistan.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 11:17:24 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: bruinbirdman

Nice move, California socialist totalitarians.

You just murdered the alternate fuel industry in your state.

Just when you needed it the most.


5 posted on 05/09/2008 11:18:46 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Another reason to get out of Kalifornistan.

Not just California. IIRC, this recently happened to a fellow in North Carolina too.

This is why the 2nd amendment is so darn important.

The water is boiling.

6 posted on 05/09/2008 11:20:51 AM PDT by A message
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To: bruinbirdman

Liberal asshattery at its finest. Proof positive that the left doesn’t give a good g. d. about the environment or saving energy, it is all about control and power and sucking money out of the people to fatten the state.

Time to scream bloody murder at the idiot rulers of this tinpot state of mine. *fume*


7 posted on 05/09/2008 11:22:12 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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They are just doing to him what they do to other suppliers of motor fuels.

Remember, boys and girls, Government is not the solution, Government is the problem.

8 posted on 05/09/2008 11:23:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Green = The color of money..................


9 posted on 05/09/2008 11:23:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: FormerACLUmember
North Carolina too
10 posted on 05/09/2008 11:23:50 AM PDT by A message
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To: FormerACLUmember

Question for you...

Which will get you more time in Jail...growing tobacco or growing marijuana?

You already know the answer.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 11:25:14 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Matthew Tiffany, a 26-year-old student and environmentalist in Monrovia, tried to help some 20 veggie oil drivers go legal and found the task nearly impossible.

There's a reason for that, Mr. Tiffany. It's YOU!............

12 posted on 05/09/2008 11:26:32 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Ouderkirk

It’s illegal to grow tobacco?..........


13 posted on 05/09/2008 11:27:14 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Without a federal quota permit you will do jail time!!


14 posted on 05/09/2008 11:31:28 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Too many people brewing their own biodiesel are far, far too quick to trumpet their achievement with a bumper sticker or other advertisement.

My advice to anyone creating ANY of their own on-road fuel (diesel or gasoline) is to Shut The **&^ Up!

Just don’t tell anyone.

The penalties for burning un-taxed diesel fuel on highways is very high. It goes even higher if they find out you have a storage tank of untaxed fuel at your home or place of business. You will be fined according to your storage capacity.

I can’t remember how many bio-diesel advocates I’ve had to tell this to. Too many of them want to “stick it to the man” (or some other hippy bumper-sticker mentality). I’ve had to tell them that “the man” can stick it to them much, much harder than they’re ever going to stick it back to “the man.” I’m wishing them success and achievement in their efforts, but they have to keep a low profile. The government hates it when people get out of line.


15 posted on 05/09/2008 11:33:03 AM PDT by NVDave
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Where do I get one?.....And what about a Federal permit to grow mari,...er, uh....cannabis sativa........plants?...


16 posted on 05/09/2008 11:37:22 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

In Tennessee you need to register with the state and get an allotment; only alloted properties are eligible; planting anywhere else is illegal.

Sort of like a taxi permit in NYC.


17 posted on 05/09/2008 11:39:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Sort of like a taxi permit in NYC.

IOW, Damn Near Impossible...............

18 posted on 05/09/2008 11:44:57 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: NVDave

Everyone else who uses the roads pays the tax.

My advice is not to ride on everyone elses’s back by using the facilities without paying your share for them.


19 posted on 05/09/2008 11:45:19 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Red Badger

This is done through BATF

I would assume the marijuana is the same as tobacco. Somebody has to supply the “medical” market, and this is beneath big Pharma.


20 posted on 05/09/2008 11:45:27 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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