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Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Reuters ^ | Thu May 8 | Timothy Gardner

Posted on 05/09/2008 8:35:13 AM PDT by 300magnum

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To: netmilsmom

These will take off and the price of “cheap sugar” from Mexico will skyrocket.

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BINGO!!!


61 posted on 05/09/2008 9:37:57 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: 300magnum

62 posted on 05/09/2008 9:38:39 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: Bobalu

Relative of Junior Johnson?


63 posted on 05/09/2008 9:45:02 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: gleeaikin

Ok, I’m sure every county/city has several ordinances about running backyard/garage stills. Aside from that aspect there are a few fire hazard issues working with stills & pure alcohol. I don’t see this being applicable to 97% of the population.


64 posted on 05/09/2008 9:49:33 AM PDT by zek157
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To: 300magnum

Add Washington State.


65 posted on 05/09/2008 9:52:47 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Nachum

Would 35 gal./wk. keep the whole membership in good “spirits”?


66 posted on 05/09/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kellynla
There are biodiesel units out there that you can purchase for $3.5K

Where?

67 posted on 05/09/2008 9:58:37 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: gleeaikin

If you have any soldering skills you can build a 5 gallon/hr output compact still with a $30.00 investment here:

http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id3.html


68 posted on 05/09/2008 10:02:03 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: samtheman
Look like the oil companies have people jumping through hoops. Like a lot of Goldfish Tricks to me . . . LOL !
69 posted on 05/09/2008 10:02:10 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Deaf Smith

uuhhh...yeah it does...with proper paperwork.


70 posted on 05/09/2008 10:04:01 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: 300magnum
For every gallon of ethanol you put in your tank, a child goes hungry that day.

For every tank full of ethanol you use, someone starves to death.

71 posted on 05/09/2008 10:04:19 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

“Where?”

say “please” LOL


72 posted on 05/09/2008 10:06:54 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: 300magnum

With the technology that one could use to make a batch of meth, one could make ethanol from cellulose. I would rather be brewing up old newspaper than impacting the world’s sugar prices.


73 posted on 05/09/2008 10:08:43 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: kellynla

Pretty please?


74 posted on 05/09/2008 10:08:48 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

http://homebiodieselkits.com/


75 posted on 05/09/2008 10:10:19 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: count-your-change

Good luck with that.


76 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:53 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: ex-Texan

It’s not the oil companies. I would love to give the oil companies free reign and let them drill to their hearts content. We’d be back down to gas wars and $.25 a gallon.

But that’s not going to happen. Not as long as the hate-America socialists who run the WH and Congress keep running the WH and Congress.

Which, by the way, is the main reason I won’t be voting for McCain. If we’re going to have a hate-America socialist running the country, I want it to be OBVIOUS, not STEALTH.

I’m SICK of stealth hate-America socialists. I either want them all gone, or I want it very obvious what’s going on.


77 posted on 05/09/2008 11:09:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman; willgolfforfood
Do you know that all the windmills in existence don't create as much power as a single small nuke reactor?

Quite a bit overstated there. in 2006, the US generated 26.6 Million Megawatthours by wind power.

Electricity Net Generation From Renewable Energy by Energy Use Sector and Energy Source, 2002-2006 http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/solar.renewables/page/trends/table1_11.html

The smallest commercial Nuclear plant I found is Fort Calhoun, Nebraska, 476 MW. If it could run 100% 24/7 for a year it would produce 4.17 Million Megawattshours. So US wind averaged 6.4 times as much power as our smallest Nuclear plant is capable of doing. But even Nuclear plants don't average 100% capacity.

Fort Calhoun Station near Omaha, Nebraska
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/at_a_glance/reactors/fort_calhoun.html

Now, all plants, including nuclear plants, have down time. So lets look at the industry average. In 2006, we generated 787.2 Million Megawatthours from Nuclear.

Net Generation by Energy Source by Type of Producer, 1995 through 2006
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat1p1.html

There are 104 US Nuclear units in the US.

U.S. Nuclear Reactors
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/nuc_reactors/reactsum.html

So our average Nuclear reactor is producing 7.57 Million Megawatthours per year and our total wind generation is producing 3.5 times our average nuclear unit.

I am in favor of more nuclear plants and I am against targeted subsidies like those for wind. But I would like to see honest information used to make our decisions about our energy needs.

78 posted on 05/09/2008 11:45:43 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: samtheman
you ead my mind...bwahalolhehaha

pay 10 K for this machine, that probably devours electricity, which will convert mountains of sugar [sold separately] into ethanol, for only $1/gal...that few, if anyones engine will swallow without gagging...

then it gets even better by selling off carbon credits to offset the cost...

Now all we need is dingy pelosi to offer a tax credit and itll be a grand slam...

79 posted on 05/09/2008 11:47:15 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

Can you believe that this is adult humans coming up with this concept?


80 posted on 05/09/2008 11:50:50 AM PDT by samtheman
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