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Bulletins at Obama's Church Carry Their Own Controversy
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Posted on 05/09/2008 2:59:51 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bulletins at Obama's Church Carry Their Own Controversy By Fred Lucas CNSNews.com Staff Writer May 09, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) recently said his relationship with his long-time pastor and friend Rev. Jeremiah Wright "changed" after what Obama called the clergyman's "divisive and destructive" remarks at the National Press Club. Later, however, Obama stressed his loyalty to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where he has been a member for many years.

Articles published in the Trinity United Church of Christ bulletin in 2007 carried controversial comments written by people other than Jeremiah Wright. Those comments included the claim that Israel worked with South Africa to build an "ethnic bomb" that would kill blacks and Arabs, that the Pentagon was training Latin Americans to be terrorists, and that the TV networks are run by right-wing racists.

On Sunday, May 4, Obama told NBC's Tim Russert, on "Meet the Press," that he was still a member of Trinity United Church of Christ and said of the Wright controversy, "I think that the American people understand that when I joined Trinity United Church of Christ, I was committing not to Pastor Wright. I was committing to a church and I was committing to Christ. And it is a wonderful church."

The pastor of Trinity United is Rev. Otis Moss III and the senior pastor is Rev. Wright. At the end of May, Wright will go on sabbatical and Moss will assume the title of senior pastor.

The first few pages of the church's weekly bulletin carry scripture passages, hymns, and announcements. Deeper into the bulletin, however, there are political and opinion articles.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jeremiahwright; nationofislam; obama; obama2008; obamatruthfile; otismoss; phoneychristians; trinityucc; wright

1 posted on 05/09/2008 2:59:52 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Another politically charged piece published in the June 10, 2007 bulletin, as previously reported by The Washington Times and CNN, was written by a person who is not a member of the church. The piece was an open letter by Ali Baghdadi to TV talk-show host Oprah Winfrey, who was planning a trip to Israel. Baghdadi is editor of the Arab Journal and who, according to the bulletin, acted as a Middle East advisor to Elijah Muhammad, and later with Louis Farrakhan, both with the Nation of Islam. In this letter to Winfrey, Baghdadi wrote: "I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the White Supremacists of South Africa. In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa. The Israelis were given a blank check: They could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs."

This isn't (and never was) a Christian church.

It is a terrorist front group.


2 posted on 05/09/2008 3:05:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot

Pay no attention. That’s just his crazy Uncle Church.


3 posted on 05/09/2008 3:23:27 AM PDT by shineon
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To: Sub-Driver
the TV networks are run by right-wing racists.

This is actually almost true, except it's left-wing racists that run the networks.

4 posted on 05/09/2008 3:50:06 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (A Zero Tolerance Policy isnÂ’t a one way street.)
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To: SkyPilot

I’ve said before, it’s not just Hussein that we should be worried about but the thousands of people who have been indoctrined with this hate for decades/generations.


5 posted on 05/09/2008 4:15:50 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmmmm. My church doesn’t have an “Associate Pastor for Social Justice.” How bizarre.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 4:26:30 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale

Their ‘church’ is just another branch of the civil rights ‘industry’ in America.


7 posted on 05/09/2008 4:38:24 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Sub-Driver
Evidently, Obama was not only dozing during the sermons but not reading the church bulletins either.

I can't blame him for that, but how can someone who is so utterly unaware and who has musjudged the place he considers so influential in his life possibly expect to be effective as President of the U.S.A.?

And apparently his wife either somehow managed to remain oblivious herself or didn't bother to clue him in.

At any rate, since Obama has claimed that he didn't have the slightest idea what was going on at the church, I'll try to take his word for it. Okay-- Nobody that clueless and completely out of touch with what's going on around him can be entrusted with the Presidency (or anything else of importance)!

Obama's chances of being elected are less than zilch and closer to zero.

So are his qualifications for the office of the Presidency.

Hey, Oprah, how did you possibly manage to misjudge this man so outrageously?

8 posted on 05/09/2008 5:43:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: SMARTY

The church, like many in this country, is just another branch of leftist thought.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 5:59:28 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Sub-Driver
A Trinity United staff member, who asked not to be named, told Cybercast News Service that the political articles are there to inform congregants about world affairs. The staff member likened these articles to commentary pieces in a newspaper, where the opinions expressed are those of the writers, not necessarily the church.

A 501c3 charity, like a church, is limited in political speech in exchange for the tax status. They need to be audited.

10 posted on 05/09/2008 8:36:37 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Savage Beast

You are assuming that Obama was telling the truth when he said this was all news to him.

He lied.

He ordered tapes of sermons even when he wasn’t “attending”.

He had to know.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 8:38:16 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Sub-Driver
the TV networks are run by right-wing racists

What planet are they on??
12 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:32 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: weegee
Oh course Obama is lying, Weegee. He is obviously lying. He knew exactly what was going on in that church--and what Jeremiah Wright's "message" is--and Michelle's opinions, which are very much like Wright's.

In post #8, I assumed that Obama was telling the truth, sarcastically, to make the point that if he were telling the truth, his judgment, powers of discernment, ability to appraise human nature, and intelligence disqualify him for the Presidency.

In other words, if he's not a liar, he's a fool! In fact, he is probably both. And in either case, he is unfit for the Presidency of the U.S.A.

Obama claims not to be a liar but admits to being a fool. What a foolish defense!

Of course you are absolutely right:

He lied, and

He had to know!

In fact: Obama did know. He knew exactly what was going on. Anybody who believes otherwise is a fool.

13 posted on 05/09/2008 12:54:43 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Sub-Driver; All
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

. I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Obama the "transformer"

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement
[in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

14 posted on 05/09/2008 8:17:48 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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