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Armed to kill in national parks?
christian science monitor ^ | Tue May 6, 4:00 AM ET | unknown

Posted on 05/08/2008 7:58:35 PM PDT by Redcitizen

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To: AnAmericanMother
I strongly favor good shooting glasses, 32 dB foam ear plugs AND over the ear protection with big bore revolvers. A ball cap with brim to keep brass from getting between your glasses and eyes is a must. A long sleeve shirt and buttoned collar keeps the hot brass from burning your arms or going down your shirt. My wife learned the "going down the shirt" lesson the hard way. There is a good reason behind all of those little safety issues. We also watch carefully to make sure the right spinners are being shot with the correct cartridge. A .22LR will bounce off a plate designed to stop a 38SPL or .308. The 38SPL will puncture the light targets intended for 22LR.

Our favorite general purpose plinking round is the 125 gr 38SPL or 148 gr DEWC 38SPL. We each have the S&W 686+ with 4" barrel. It's a great general purpose revolver. Plenty accurate for competing in center fire handgun target competition. Cheap to shoot for an afternoon with spinners. We "launder" the fired brass in a Dillon vibratory cleaner overnight, then make 250 to 500 rounds to replace what was consumed. Boxes of bullets are sold in 250/500 sizes for that kind of bulk reloading. The fine quality hunting bullets come in boxes of 50 or 100 at a much higher price.

Do you have a hardness tester for your lead to ensure it meets some minimum standard before casting your own bullets?

61 posted on 05/09/2008 5:37:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: AnAmericanMother
My dogs are ruthless too, and if I miss a bird they look at me like, “Why do we hunt with an idiot like you?”

My wife is a falconer along with enjoying shooting. Her Red Tail hawk was very capable of taking multiple rabbits each afternoon. Her Jack Russel Terrier would help flush the bunnies as the hawk followed behind my wife moving from bush to bush. That's all history now. The dog ate a rat poisoned by the neighbor. He was healthy at noon and laying bloated in the backyard at 4 PM with flies in his mouth. The Red Tail hawk was given to her apprentice in advance of our move from San Diego to Idaho. Her favorite hunting grounds are now covered with a theater, Barnes&Noble and Home Depot. Nothing lasts forever.

62 posted on 05/09/2008 5:45:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Oh, we're religious about ear and eye protection. With the .45 ACP I've had hulls down the shirt, but my daddy taught me well, I don't even squeak. Can't wear a brimmed hat with the Indian outfit, but my shooting glasses have the close-fitting brow shield and I haven't had anything bounce behind them.

As far as the lead casting, with the cowboy stuff we don't bother with a hardness test, because the velocities are so slow and the charges so light that wheelweights have more than adequate hardness (97% lead, 3% antimony).

We have a friend who's a charter subscriber to The Fouling Shot and a serious competitive shooter, so we conferred with him before we set up our little factory.

We use jacketed on anything with speed behind it because I hate cleaning lead out of the rifling. And for my 1911A1 there's always the feeding issue.

We have an old Thumler tumbler with walnut hulls and rouge for the brass. We've had it for 40 years and it still works fine.

63 posted on 05/09/2008 5:51:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Wow - friend of mine is a raptor rehabilitator, and he has a little peregrine that he flies at small game.

We have a Red Tail Hawk who lives in our yard. He is absolutely fearless, he'll snatch a chipmunk or squirrel and just sit in our cherry tree 5 feet from the driveway and eat it while we stand there and watch him. He doesn't like the dogs much, but he knows they can't climb trees!

That's a shame about your Jack. All the horsey people here have them - wish they'd train them though! We use spring traps, glue boards, and Hav-A-Harts for the rats for precisely that reason. So does everyone else around here (they all have dogs too). I also pay my son a bounty for every rat he bags with his air rifle. They cleared some old derelict houses up the hill from us, and all the rats moved down here.

64 posted on 05/09/2008 5:57:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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My neighbor didn't give a thought to baiting the roof rats. The Jack Russel was 3 years old and had papers. Another neighbor maliciously poisoned my female black lab. After doing that, he left a threatening message on my answering machine. I walked to his front door and gave him two options. Option #1 was to sell the house and leave the neighborhood. Option #2 was to be arrested and prosecuted. He opted for #1. Good riddance. There was no way to undo the damage to my dog.

We currently have 3 Rat Terriers. The two boys are tree climbers. They can get about 6 feet up in to the branches of our two Black Austrian pines. It gets them high enough to peek over the fence at the neighbors. They occasionally catch and eat a squirrel. We keep them fit and fast by running them with a laser pointer.

My wife generally prefers broad winged hawks with enough heft to bash through heavy brush in search of a rabbit. The big female Red Tail is just the ticket. We traveled to Sacramento and paid $850 for a Harris Hawk. That didn't turn out well. The breeder lived in a area with a small creek. His birds had been bitten by mosquitos and all of them had malaria. He refunded the $850, but we still had a big vet bill and a dead bird. Henceforth, we only fly birds that my wife traps in the wild. She's very good at that, so it works out fine. Her falconry has been on hiatus since moving to Idaho. Being the lead dispatcher at the local police dept doesn't leave sufficient free time to care for a hawk. It is a time intensive task that must be done every day.

65 posted on 05/09/2008 6:18:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: AnAmericanMother
Walnut hulls are especially good for scrubbing heavy carbon buildup off the brass. I like to finish with ground corn cob and Dillon brass polish. It leaves the brass sparkling clean with no abrasive residue to damage my reloading dies.

Thumler has been around a while. They also make nice rock polishing tumblers. I've been considering getting one of those for my oldest son. He's a geology major with lots of nice rock samples that would look very fine if properly cut and polished.

66 posted on 05/09/2008 6:22:52 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Your former neighbor doesn't sound too bright.

Guess we're fortunate to have nice sensible people living all around us. Hope we're as lucky when we sell this old barrack of a house and move once the last kid is out of high school.

I could see how raptors could be a high-maintenance item. Even my dogs keep me pretty busy -- of course they are princesses and expect to be treated as such. And of course the horse thinks she's a princess . . . and the cat KNOWS she is The Queen . . . . the lady who bred my oldest Lab says if there's reincarnation she wants to come back as one of my animals.

67 posted on 05/09/2008 8:29:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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A hunting hawk has to be maintained at optimal weight. If overfed, they will fly away. There is no incentive to come back to the fist for food. If underfed, they won't have the strength to fly or hunt. It's a daily process of weighing the bird and adjusting the type and amount of food. We purchased lots of lean chicken, quail and rats to accomplish the right feeding. The bird also spent hours on my wife's fist as she watched TV or did chores. It takes time to build the relationship of trust and dependency with the bird.

We have lots of pets around the house too. 3 Rat Terriers, 2 Maine Coon cats, 1 tuxedo cat, 1 cockatiel, 1 rosy boa and a pair of tortoises. The aquariums are dry for the moment. I once had lots of African cichlids, plecostomus catfish, red devils and tiger oscars. We also flirted with a salt water aquarium for a while. The aquariums and water quality were my problem. As with the raptors, I simply don't have time right now.

68 posted on 05/09/2008 11:14:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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We used to do salt water. That was B.C. (Before Children).

Fascinating to get some insight into hawking. You run into it when reading medieval literature, but they didn't say anything about the basics because in those days, everybody knew all about it!

69 posted on 05/10/2008 6:58:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
My wife is a master falconer. That takes about 10 years from a dead start. I just took her over to SportsmansWarehouse with the intent of picking up some new plastic water bottles without the BPA in the plastic. We left with her Mother's Day present. It's an 8 shot S&W Performance Center revolver in .357 (S&W 627). The gold bead on the front sight is a nice touch compared to the usual orange plastic insert. You can tell a difference in the factor action job too. I picked up a couple boxes of 300 gr Speer GoldDot bullets rated for use with the .454 Casull. That should prevent the backspatter problem on the 460. Another box of 500 127 gr flat-nose bullets from West Coast Bullets will be loaded into 38SPL for plinking spinners at the range.
70 posted on 05/10/2008 4:00:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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