McCain's Former Hanoi Cell Mate Describes Character in Deplorable Conditions

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[mnehring]

John McCain rarely speaks about his experiences as a POW in Vietnam, but one of his cell mates at the Hanoi Hilton on Thursday described some of the conditions and character traits that earned McCain the commendations he received for his war service.

Col. George “Bud” Day, 83, is the most decorated service man since Gen. Douglas MacArthur, with more than 70 medals. A living legend, Day was blown out of the sky two months to the day before the North Vietnamese shot down a propaganda prize, whose father and grandfather were renowned American admirals.

[samtheman]

I believe you have great respect for military heroes and I’m sorry for saying that you don’t. I was over the top on that.

But you have to consider how you sound, consider what it reads like.

Something like this:

Day: I am here to tell you that McCain was a hero.

calcowgirl: Day is a hero, but McCain is not. [my paraphrasing of you]

So what does that say? It says you aren’t listening to the man you just proclaimed as a hero.

What’s he here to tell you? If you disagree with Day, why not say openly “I disagree with Day”?

Why not criticize DAY for not understanding that “McCain was just following orders”?

Why criticize McCain for that?

I just don’t get it. The whole gist of the interview posted here was what Day thought about McCain. You ignored that, you gave it short shrift, and then you praise Day. It’s patronizing and, I’m sorry, a bit disrespectful. If you really respect the man, you should respect what he says, even if you disagree with him. But you can’t just ignore him, like he’s a child you adore but don’t really pay attention to.

[gate2wire]

I truely regret using that word “irrelevant” in that post.
Don’t blame Americans for being upset. My fault.
Am a huge fan of Adm. Stockdale’s. Shouldn’t have tried to inject him into the discussion.

[samtheman]

Hey, it’s an online forum. You say what you think at the time you say it and sometimes you decide to say it all another way.

I myself have changed my mind, and recently.

I used to say “vote McCain as the lesser of two evils”.

Now I’ve been convinced by discussions here (some of them quite heated) that it’s better not to cast a vote for McCain. And I’m not going to do it.

[Alia]

My dad was a POW twice during WWII.

They got released in the order of capture.

Not necessarily true.

[doc1019]

FDR was never in the military. When the United States entered World War I in 1917, Franklin held the civilian post of Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He was eager to enlist, but President Wilson urged against it, citing his important service in the Navy Department.

During World War II, President Roosevelt served as Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

[jmc813]

Good read, thanks for posting, Matty. As much as I can’t stand the guy politically and encourage everyone to vote for Barr, few things piss me off more than reading freepers question McCain’s conduct as a POW. There was a special on Nam POW’s on PBS about 5 years back or so that was (surprisingly) outstanding. McCain was interviewed in it and if I recall correctly, this George Day dude was as well. If you haven’t seen it, I’ll see if I can dig up a YouTube or Botorrent for you. Lemme know.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Yeah that’s right. McCain is just like JFK’s assassin and a murderous psychopath.

No, that's not right. You didn't even get the point - that would be: military service is one thing, who someone actually is another. Prior military service is fine, great even, but it is hardly what good material for the WH is predicated one. We are interested in electing a conservative, not a RINO or any other kind of pretender. McCain ain't good for America, service notwithstanding.

BTW, Whitman wasn't a Psychopath; he had a brain tumor and no prior warning. But, hey, who's paying attention?

[WorkingClassFilth]

I will very likely go and vote for him simply because, like W.F. Buckley, I will always vote for the rightward most - viable - candidate. However, I not contribute one stinking cent to him or the RNC, nor will I do lit drops, phone banks, or serve in any capacity for election purposes.

That said, I will work for my local candidate running in the Minn. 3rd Congressional district because I know and trust her.

After 30+ years, I'm just sick of being screwed by my own side. McCain is the Manchurian Candidate and no Conservative by any stretch.

[Viking2002]

'[and where I live, that is *the* worst thing you can call a male...it comprises a huge list of “unspoken connotations”...each of them worse than the last]'

And therein lies the crux of the matter. The statement as a whole gets re-contextualized to suit the needs and/or the grievences of the recipient. It's a core dogmatic construct of liberalism - victimhood.

After six years, I was getting bored with my old avatar. This one has more character. Glad you like it. I did the same thing at another board I post at, and I caught nine kinds of Hell from dozens of people, because they just couldn't identify with me without the old one, so I had to change it back. LOL

[Salamander]

It says he misses having been “properly disciplined” by his real mommy.

[you know how grandparents spoil their grandkids]...;]

[Salamander]

Punk never gets “re-contextualized” by anyone, here.
If you call a guy that, be prepared to back it up or run like hell....LOL!

I love the mosaic and don’t see why it “confused” anyone.

It’s ~obviously~ a *Viking*.....;-D

It looks very much like a Viking I painted on the fairing of a Harley for a guy...sans mosiac effect, of course.

The horns, the beard and braids flowed back along the sides of the fairing, as though wind blown.
The major difference was that the Viking had his mouth open and teeth bared in a battle cry.

Very cool to see as it roared towards you....:)

[truth_seeker]

“FDR was never in the military. When the United States entered World War I in 1917, Franklin held the civilian post of Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He was eager to enlist, but President Wilson urged against it, citing his important service in the Navy Department.

During World War II, President Roosevelt served as Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces.”

My mistake; thanks for the correction. I believe my point stands, that almost all who reached the Presidency had military experience.

Counting FDRs civilian role, that leaves Bill Clinton alone without military experience in post WWII times. We all know how he (dis) regarded the military, from his own writings.

It would be tragic to have Hillary or B. Hussein in the Presidency.