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Happiness plummets with kids' arrival [Harvard expert alert]
News.com.au ^ | May 8, 2008 | Adam Bennett

Posted on 05/08/2008 2:13:15 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

MARRIAGE is a constant source of joy, but introducing children into the relationship will send your happiness in a downward spiral, a conference has been told.

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The more kids you had, the sadder you were likely to be, [Harvard psychology professor Daniel] Gilbert said.

US and European studies had shown that people's happiness did spike while they were expecting a baby but sharply plummeted after the child was born.

The low point came when children reached the ages of 12-16, and recovered only when they had flown the coop, he said.

"In reality ... children do seem to increase happiness as long as you're expecting them, but as soon as you have them, trouble sets in," he said.

"People are extremely happy before they have children and then their happiness goes down, and it takes another big hit when kids reach adolescence.

"When does it come back to it's original baseline? Oh, about the time the children grow up and go away."

[...skipping silly comparison of kids with Armani socks...]

"The psychologists tell us that we like things more when we pay for them - what does that sound like? It sounds like children. We pay for them in time, attention, blood, sweat and tears - what kind of idiots would we be to devote all of that to the rearing of our young if they'd didn't bring us some happiness?"

The fact that parenthood crowded out all other things in life could explain why we considered children our greatest source of joy, he said.

"Parents tell me all the time that: `My child is my greatest source of joy'," he said.

"My reply is that: `Yes, when you have one source of joy, it's bound to be your greatest'."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: happiness; marriage; parenthood; psychology
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Having three kids is by far the best thing my wife and I ever did. We taught them to treat each other and their parents with respect, we had zero tolerance for unnecessary drama, and it's amazing how much fun we all had together.

Our only regret is that now we only have two children. I know the two remaining kids mourn every day, and always will.

I still wouldn't have traded it for anything, though. Breeders rule!!!!

21 posted on 05/08/2008 3:04:03 PM PDT by joe.fralick
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Yeah kids are such a drag that when my oldest turned 18 we had another one.


22 posted on 05/08/2008 3:04:47 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
The more kids you had, the sadder you were likely to be,

Another compelling scientific reason to murder our unborn. (heavy sarcasm)

I guess all my life I've been around the wrong people. People who love their children and wouldn't want a life without children. People whose children brought them great joy and happiness. As someone who only has step children, they have brought me joy and happiness.

23 posted on 05/08/2008 3:07:26 PM PDT by A message
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To: surrey

If they have friends, family, and they’re happy, why feel sorry for them?


24 posted on 05/08/2008 3:07:48 PM PDT by rosenfan
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To: Straight Vermonter

The oldest child in my family was 18 when I was born and I have a younger sister who is about 17 months younger than I. People would argue with my mom that we were not her children but her grandchildren! People!


25 posted on 05/08/2008 3:16:28 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: CindyDawg

This is really making me look forward to the next few years. I have 13 year old and 11 year old twins.


26 posted on 05/08/2008 3:47:13 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

My son will have 3 teenage girls at the same time:’) I enjoyed most of the teenage times too though. That’s not to say that there weren’t days that I thought about opening the door and telling them to go. It’s like they were either on top of the mountain or down in the valley and their fuse was extremely short..


27 posted on 05/08/2008 3:53:36 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: MamaB

I was the oldest of 5 girls. Stair steps. I spaced mine 4 years apart so they wouldn’t be so close and fight. Right...The oldest and the youngest fought or ganged up on the sandwich child. Mommmmmmmmm!!!!


28 posted on 05/08/2008 3:56:10 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Parenting isn't for self-absorbed wimps.

BINGO - and it's why narcissistic liberals have fewer children. They're always in search of their inner child and don't need competition from a real child... Sad.

29 posted on 05/08/2008 3:56:35 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Hey prof Sherlock, it is not the place of your children to make you happy.


30 posted on 05/08/2008 3:56:36 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Herr professor seems to be an advocate of the zero population fantasy that has been lectured to us by the academic elites since the 70’s. Of course they fail to understand that Western civilization will be buried under a flood of human beings (Africans, Mexicans, Mid-Easterners) that didn’t get the memo. Europeans will disappear within a generation because of this attitude. Children are work, but so what, raising them is wonderful for anyone that is willing to put their heart into it.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 4:01:33 PM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Image hosted by Photobucket.com dumbass doesn't know the difference tween stress and real unhappyness
32 posted on 05/08/2008 4:39:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: rosenfan

Because their life has become centered around everyone else’s problems. The one couple only talk about their rich friend and his marital woes.


33 posted on 05/08/2008 5:33:56 PM PDT by surrey
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To: surrey

What does that have to do with the fact they they don’t have children?


34 posted on 05/08/2008 5:43:17 PM PDT by rosenfan
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To: rosenfan

When I’m in a mall all the parents of anything old enough to walk seem like depressed zombies.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 8:23:37 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Seems like a good candidate to be an Obama supporter.

Obama seems to attract lots of airheads to his side.

36 posted on 05/08/2008 8:26:02 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: surrey
I have a few friends who are childless and seemingly happy but I feel sorry for them

Don't. I can assure you we are not "seemingly happy." It is more akin to "wild, giggling bliss."

37 posted on 05/09/2008 3:39:18 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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