[jjm2111]

NJ has a de facto ban.

[trussell]

BUM(P)ing

[Condor51]

With the Home Rule law we have in IL, Winnebago County *may* have a legal way to do it.

As it now stands, Chicago can basically pass any law it wants, regardless of State Law. And to some respects Cook County too. Maybe this is what Doug Aurand in Winnebago is looking at.

In any case it sure will be interesting. 'King' Daley and 'my' ijit gov, Blago, will go apoplectic. Daley because he thinks he runs all of IL, and gov Blago because, well, he's an ijit.

[messierhunter]

Chances are, I’m going to have to move to Wisconsin soon. Crap. Apparently they tried to prosecute a store owner who kept a loaded firearm on his person in the store. The state supreme court had to state that it was ok for a store or home owner to keep a loaded weapon on themselves to defend their store or home... pretty sad when they have to actually spell out the right to defend yourself on your own property. Guess I’ll be joining one of the local gun groups to push for changes.

[Elsiejay]

My understanding of Wisconsin law, as it pertains to the powers of counties (and I have personal work experience therewith, albeit a score of years ago), is that counties, being sub-divisions of the state, do not have “home rule,” meaning they they perform only such governmental functions as are expressly permitted by state law. Cities and villages, on the other hand, having the powers of home rule, may do whatever is not expressly proscribed by state law, provided it is constitutional.
As much as I admire what Winnebago county is contemplating enacting, I doubt they have the requisite statutory authority.

[Niteranger68]

"If there had been a person there, who was of age and who had met the qualifications and chose to have concealed carry and the campus didn't have a problem with it, you might not have as many people dead today as you do have," says Winnebago County Board Member Doug Aurand.

Let's be honest. It wouldn't have necessarily taken a "qualified" person to stop this. Hell, the shooter didn't have any training and was able to kill 32.

[Amendment10]

Right now Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states in the U.S. that entirely outlaw citizens carrying concealed firearms. But two board members are pushing a proposal to change that, starting with Winnebago County. Looking back at recent tragedies like the N.I.U. shooting prompts many of us to ask what could have been done differently.

Here we go again. Are they really expecting suicidal, gun-shooting maniacs to comply with such laws?

On the other hand, even the maniacs would likely hesitate before they used concealed weapons if they knew that people might be carrying concealed weapons.

Thanks to constitutional flunky state lawmakers and the people who elected them to office, Illinois and Wisconsin are in contempt of both the 2nd and 14th Amendments.

Illinois and Wisconsin wrongly ignore that John Bingham and the 39th Congress clarified that the 2nd A. is a personal right which the 14th A. applied to the states. See the 2nd A. in the middle column of the following page from the Congressional Globe, a precursor to the Congressional Record.

http://tinyurl.com/y3ne4n

The page referenced above is one of Bingham's discussions of the 14th A., Bingham being the main author of Sec. 1 of that amendment.

[2harddrive]

These are two little liberal-pussy states. I doubt they have what it takes to change.