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To: Abathar
"Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing,"

I can say with some certainty that He didn't have a clue what he was doing. Im a firearms instructor for my department, as well as a certified armorer on the Glock pistol in question. To disassemble this firearm, the magazine must be removed(always a good start) and then using a two party check the chamber must be verified clear AND empty. Once the weapon is VERIFIED empty, the trigger can be pulled(keeping it pointed in a safe direction i.e. not at YOURSELF) and the pistol disassembled. As My master trainers are fond of saying "you gotta be smarter than the gun you're carrying"

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8 posted on 05/07/2008 5:40:26 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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To: Celtic Conservative

Did you mean a two-PART check or a two-PARTY? I ask because I would assume that it is OK to dissassemble and reassemble the pistol while by oneself...


10 posted on 05/07/2008 5:45:55 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Celtic Conservative

My question is what about Walker and Ulm who where described as disgruntled due to their comments.

Are they going to be turned away for their license for conceal to carry or however you say it?


21 posted on 05/07/2008 6:04:38 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Celtic Conservative
Indeed. As your post points out, pulling the trigger is part of the disassembly process. The fact that the doofus in question performed this under the table is a strong indicator that no check was performed, that he assumed the unloaded status of the weapon.
35 posted on 05/07/2008 6:50:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Celtic Conservative

“As My master trainers are fond of saying “you gotta be smarter than the gun you’re carrying””

And...never drive faster than your IQ.


37 posted on 05/07/2008 6:54:12 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Well, I’m sure the chief has had ample time to consider the error of his ways, but the fact is that there really are only two sorts of folks out there: those who have experienced an ND, and those who are going to.

This all reminds me of an article that Louis Awerbuck wrote for Swat magazine a couple of years back, in which he described dry fire practice in his garage. He chamber checked, saw the brass, and proceeded to “dry” fire, with predicatble results. Brain fart. His point was, hey, next time, don’t laugh: it could happen to you. Difference with Louis was he was paying attention to Cooper’s OTHER three rules, and all he wound up with was a dent in a cinder-block wall.

What strikes me is that this was the chief, providing a ccw class. My own boss doesn’t even issue the darn things to ordinary non-celebrity folks, let alone teach the class. I think this guy’s heart was in the right place, and that he got complacent, and will probably not “re-offend”.


59 posted on 05/07/2008 8:32:18 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I personally would never own a Glock. The idea of having to pull the trigger to take the slide off is a little... weird.


67 posted on 05/07/2008 12:07:09 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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