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""Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing,""

*snicker*

1 posted on 05/07/2008 5:23:02 AM PDT by Abathar
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“The chief cried, “I’m hit,” and fell over. Students who were screaming “Officer down!” were urged to call 911.”

I also would have fallen over, laughing hysterically.


2 posted on 05/07/2008 5:28:10 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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"I think Riverdale police are just trying to keep this quiet and act like the chief is a hero. But if you ask me, he's really stupid," Walker said. "His state certification to teach concealed-weapons classes should be taken away from him. This was totally gross negligence."

Damn straight!

3 posted on 05/07/2008 5:33:44 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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I agree with the sentiment that he should have his license to teach concealed carry yanked. “Now class, the first step in disassembling a loaded Glock 40...” MAKE SURE IT’S NOT LOADED!!!

Making sure a firearm is unloaded prior to doing any kind of work on it is right up there with making sure you point the firearm in a safe direction at all times...

This buffoon is certainly not qualified...


4 posted on 05/07/2008 5:33:46 AM PDT by craig61a
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Just.....damn!


5 posted on 05/07/2008 5:35:16 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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6 posted on 05/07/2008 5:37:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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Administrators who wanna be macho cops, who’d a thought? Why do you think they promote these incompetents; because it makes the streets safer.


7 posted on 05/07/2008 5:38:56 AM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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"Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing,"

I can say with some certainty that He didn't have a clue what he was doing. Im a firearms instructor for my department, as well as a certified armorer on the Glock pistol in question. To disassemble this firearm, the magazine must be removed(always a good start) and then using a two party check the chamber must be verified clear AND empty. Once the weapon is VERIFIED empty, the trigger can be pulled(keeping it pointed in a safe direction i.e. not at YOURSELF) and the pistol disassembled. As My master trainers are fond of saying "you gotta be smarter than the gun you're carrying"

CC

8 posted on 05/07/2008 5:40:26 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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I still remember my first weapons trainning class for the US ARMY. The SGT made up a non existant exotic sounding weapon and asked us what was the first step in its disassembly. None of us knew the answer. So, the SGT told us it was to check if the weapon was loaded and unload the weapon if it was. When someone said he did not think there was such a weapon as mentioned, the SGT said that did not matter. All weapons have the same first step in their disassembly.


9 posted on 05/07/2008 5:44:51 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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"Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing," Ulm told the Standard-Examiner of Ogden.

No CCW permit for you then, Bart.

Ebert said the findings of an internal investigation would be announced Wednesday. He declined to offer specifics but disputed the accounts of Ulm and Walker, describing the pair as "disgruntled."

Yeah, this is the students' fault. </cop logic>

12 posted on 05/07/2008 5:53:02 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (There was once consensus that the world was flat.)
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He declined to offer specifics but disputed the accounts of Ulm and Walker, describing the pair as "disgruntled."

If I'd been in a class where a cop was waving a loaded gun around and caused a negligent discharge, I wouldn't be very gruntled, either.

14 posted on 05/07/2008 5:54:54 AM PDT by Sloth (A domestic enemy of the Constitution will become POTUS on January 20, 2009.)
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"I'm hit!"

Did he think he was in an action movie or something?

He's lucky he didn't kill one of his students with a ricochet.

Clown.

16 posted on 05/07/2008 5:58:27 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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NO!!!!

17 posted on 05/07/2008 5:59:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO (or HRC).")
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This story needs more powdered donut.


20 posted on 05/07/2008 6:02:11 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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The chief cried, "I'm hit," and fell over. Students who were screaming "Officer down!" were urged to call 911.

Did they get a description of the shooter in all the chaos?

22 posted on 05/07/2008 6:05:59 AM PDT by Sender ("Why is it that I can't just eat my waffle?" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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The chief cried, "I'm hit," and fell over. Students who were screaming "Officer down!" were urged to call 911. The gun went off in a conference room Saturday at Riverdale police headquarters.

What out the door? 911!!!!!!

24 posted on 05/07/2008 6:12:19 AM PDT by doodad
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Sounds like too many chiefs here in MA. Largely political hacks with little or no familiarity with firearms.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 6:12:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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From his comments, student Lewis Walker appears to know considerably more about firearms than Police Chief Dave Hansen.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

28 posted on 05/07/2008 6:20:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Hansen held the Glock 40 under a table to disassemble it when a bullet fired, Walker said

Note the passive voice.

"Hansen held the Glock 40 under a table to disassemble it when he pulled the trigger and shot himself", Walker said

There, fixed it...

29 posted on 05/07/2008 6:23:05 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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“But I figured he’s the chief, so he must know what he’s doing,”

There is a reason that one of the logical fallacies is “Appeal to Authority.” The folks in the class learned a valuable lesson, both about firearms and life in general.


30 posted on 05/07/2008 6:23:17 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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Reminds me of an Academy Commander in the central Ohio area back in the 1980s. He waved a loaded weapon around in several classes in an unsafe manner. Some students filed complaints. This resulted in his academy being placed on probation and he and his instructors threatening the students with failing the academy.

Soon after, this commander had a negligent discharge within inches of a student's head. He lost his academy.

Last I heard, he was training Iraqi police forces in 2003. Shudder!

33 posted on 05/07/2008 6:40:22 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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