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To: AmericaUnited
I watched Newt in that pathetic global warming "debate" with Kerry. He gave the entire FRAUD/HOAX credibility.

It's tough to counter flat-out bald-faced lying, but I'll give it a shot.

I watched that debate twice, once live as broadcast on C-SPAN, and then again a few days later. Both times start to finish in the entirety, and both times because I've been following Newt and his ideas since 1994 and wanted to see how he'd handle "global warming".

First, he doesn't, except to concede (without argument) that there's something going on. Then he spent the remaining 95 percent of the "debate" convincing the audience (while undermining Kerry's position) that market-based, capitalist, non-coercive solutions are the only effective remedies to that "something" in the environment.

If you think about capitalist economics for just one second you'll instantly understand that Newt's 100 percent market-based approach will solve only "real" and not perceived. made-up, or illusory problems such as anthropomorphic "global warming". People won't buy non-solutions to non-problems.

SO the name of the game now is to convince folks to reject coercive government "solutions" and embrace capitalist approaches, and Newt is very good at making that argument.

As with you and your hatred for Newt, there's really no point in arguing with those who believe in "global warming".

152 posted on 05/07/2008 6:44:16 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
I also watched Newt's debate with Kerry on global warming. They both agreed that global warming was real and primarily manmade and that it needed to be addressed urgently. They only disagreed on how best to address the problem with Newt advocating a market based solution versus a government mandated one. Once you accept the premise, you have lost the debate.

WASHINGTON -- In a Capitol Hill debate about global warming touted by its moderator as a "smackdown" between former House speaker Newt Gingrich and Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, Gingrich praised Kerry's recently released book about environmentalism, acknowledged that global warming is real, and offered what amounted to an unexpected apology for his party's inaction on curtailing greenhouse gas emissions.

"I'm not going to stand up here and defend our failure to lead," said Gingrich, who is considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 and plans to release a book in the fall burnishing his environmental credentials. "There has to be a green conservatism."

"The standing-room-only debate, staged yesterday in an ornate Senate hearing room, offered an indication that even diehard conservatives like Gingrich, who stepped down as speaker in 1998, are abandoning their skepticism on global warming. As recently as two years ago, Gingrich ridiculed the notion that humans are causing the earth to warm, but yesterday he said the evidence was "sufficient.""We have now passed the tipping point of that argument," he said yesterday. The former Georgia congressman even allowed that he agreed with "about 60 percent" of "This Moment on Earth," a recently published book Kerry co wrote with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry."

"Both men agreed the problem was increasingly urgent, citing a new report by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that said rising temperatures and sea levels were linked to the growing quantity of greenhouse gases emitted by cars, power plants, and factories. Without a significant reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, the panel warned, 20 percent to 30 percent of plant and animal species could face extinction."

162 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: angkor

>SO the name of the game now is to convince folks to reject coercive government “solutions” and embrace capitalist approaches, and Newt is very good at making that argument

Thank you for your post.
Were Newt on any ticket, I would vote for it in a heartbeat.


169 posted on 05/07/2008 7:03:42 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: angkor
SO the name of the game now is to convince folks to reject coercive government "solutions" and embrace capitalist approaches, and Newt is very good at making that argument.

People like you and Newt are the problem, NOT the solution. Capitulating to the THE BIG LIE is not a solution. THAT'S PURE GARBAGE! The only real solution is combating THE LIE with the truth, NOT going along with it.

203 posted on 05/07/2008 7:53:21 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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