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To: angkor
I also watched Newt's debate with Kerry on global warming. They both agreed that global warming was real and primarily manmade and that it needed to be addressed urgently. They only disagreed on how best to address the problem with Newt advocating a market based solution versus a government mandated one. Once you accept the premise, you have lost the debate.

WASHINGTON -- In a Capitol Hill debate about global warming touted by its moderator as a "smackdown" between former House speaker Newt Gingrich and Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, Gingrich praised Kerry's recently released book about environmentalism, acknowledged that global warming is real, and offered what amounted to an unexpected apology for his party's inaction on curtailing greenhouse gas emissions.

"I'm not going to stand up here and defend our failure to lead," said Gingrich, who is considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 and plans to release a book in the fall burnishing his environmental credentials. "There has to be a green conservatism."

"The standing-room-only debate, staged yesterday in an ornate Senate hearing room, offered an indication that even diehard conservatives like Gingrich, who stepped down as speaker in 1998, are abandoning their skepticism on global warming. As recently as two years ago, Gingrich ridiculed the notion that humans are causing the earth to warm, but yesterday he said the evidence was "sufficient.""We have now passed the tipping point of that argument," he said yesterday. The former Georgia congressman even allowed that he agreed with "about 60 percent" of "This Moment on Earth," a recently published book Kerry co wrote with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry."

"Both men agreed the problem was increasingly urgent, citing a new report by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that said rising temperatures and sea levels were linked to the growing quantity of greenhouse gases emitted by cars, power plants, and factories. Without a significant reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, the panel warned, 20 percent to 30 percent of plant and animal species could face extinction."

162 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I also watched Newt's debate with Kerry on global warming. They both agreed that global warming was real and primarily manmade and that it needed to be addressed urgently.

No, they did not. That's completely and 100 percent false.

In fact I went back for a second complete viewing to resolve exactly that set of questions: how deeply did Newt assent to anthropomorphic "global warming".

In fact he did not, he merely kept letting the issue pass.

You need to watch it again and if you find I'm wrong (which I am not) come back with the damning quotes from Newt. Even the Boston Globe - the most liberal newspaper in America - couln't produce a single quote along those lines.

This myth you've dreamed up is as despicable as another famous Newt story: "Newt served his wife with divorce papers in the cancer ward".

172 posted on 05/07/2008 7:06:20 AM PDT by angkor
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To: kabar
By the way, that ginned-up article you posted is from The Boston Globe and was posted everywhere to "prove" that Newt had sold out on global warming.

Odd that in the course of a one hour debatethere is not a single definitive quote from Newt saying something like "There is human-induced global warming, and we must fix it."

Newt uses his words very carefully, and If you carefully re-read the Globe's propaganda you'll see that there's "no there there".

He liked "60 percent of Kerry's book"? So what? That means he disagreed with 40 percent.

"Global warming is real"? Again, so what? Some scientists think we're experiencing a natural cycle due to sunspots. It's no thought crime for Newt to acknowledge that.

Again, the insane charges you make against Newt aren't evident in the Globe's propaganda or in the actual debate itself.

184 posted on 05/07/2008 7:23:08 AM PDT by angkor
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