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Hmmm, lemme see: I have three TV's with DVD players, one portable DVD player and one hard wired into the van's ceiling. If I were to switch my purchases/rentals to Blu-Ray, I'd have to pay upwards of $5000 to upgrade everything (including all my non-HD screens).

I also watch DVD's on my home LAN, and I can't easily rip Blu-Ray for HD storage as I can a DVD.

I think it will be quite a while before anything other than a good ol' DVD crosses my threshold.

1 posted on 05/06/2008 11:04:35 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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“I think it will be quite a while before anything other than a good ol’ DVD crosses my threshold.”

That may be true, but as the article points out PS3 alone will drive plenty of Blu-ray adoption. Since Blu-ray players also play DVDs there’s no issue with losing access to the old library.

As to ripping Blu-ray discs, I thought software was already out there...


2 posted on 05/06/2008 11:09:17 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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BluRay will slowly filter in as people replace DVD players but only if the costs fall to a level where people decide it’s worth it.


3 posted on 05/06/2008 11:10:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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It’s the price. How much easier can you get than that? DVDs didn’t EXPLODE until units hit the magic $100 price point. At this rate, we’ll have to wait two years(excluding inventory clearing black Friday sales) before we get to that point with BluRay.

This isn’t rocket science.


4 posted on 05/06/2008 11:11:28 AM PDT by SengirV
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"I think it will be quite a while before anything other than a good ol' DVD crosses my threshold. "

Shoot! I'm sticking with Betamax!


5 posted on 05/06/2008 11:14:07 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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THere is no advantage to Blu-Ray in your van. You need a large screen TV to appreciate it.

It is truly amazing though. HD is fuzzy in comparison.

Blu-ray will take off when there are more titles available.


6 posted on 05/06/2008 11:17:18 AM PDT by zeebee
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appears as lukewarm as the applause at an REO Speedwagon concert

--chuckle--

9 posted on 05/06/2008 11:18:44 AM PDT by frogjerk (Hope is a theological virtue, not a campaign promise)
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Sony is the only company who can lose a one horse format race.


10 posted on 05/06/2008 11:19:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The death of a competing HD format was supposed to be a good thing. I didn’t get it then, and I don’t get it now.


11 posted on 05/06/2008 11:24:12 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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"I also watch DVD's on my home LAN, and I can't easily rip Blu-Ray for HD storage as I can a DVD."

Is that why HD-DVD was killed by the other manufacturers?

12 posted on 05/06/2008 11:25:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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But numbers out last week indicate that standalone Blu-ray player sales plummeted in the early part of this year... Where did all the buyers go?

They bought their players. It's a capital investment, not a consumable. You buy one, you have it.

Those who didn't buy one probably don't have HDTVs to plug one into, so there's no point in getting one. Authors of such articles seem to forget that the ~$400 players need a ~$1400 monitor to plug it into ... and most people still don't have HDTVs, and most of them aren't in a hurry to get one.

I keep looking at HDTVs, and keep not getting one. The compression wrecks the potentially pristine image, LCD panels have a jitter that bugs me, Plasma panels have a finite (improving, but still finite) lifespan, rear-projection systems are unwatchably bad (move slightly to the side and image rapidly fades), laser systems just aren't here yet, and whichever way I go the entry cost will be realistically upwards of $4000.
I'll stick with my 27" CRT and Netflix DVDs for now, thanks.

15 posted on 05/06/2008 11:32:25 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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In spite of swearing up and down that I wouldn't do it, took the plunge and bought a PS3.The PQ is quite impressive but I was even more struck by the sound quality,via "DTS-HD" and "Dolby True HD".

I would be in seventh heaven if they ever start remastering some of the old music I like (60's particularly) and putting into one of those HD Audio formats.

18 posted on 05/06/2008 11:34:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Women swooned in Mao's presence too.)
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It took years (unto decades) for CDs and DVDs to penetrate the market to a degree these people are looking to achieve in months ... and those involved formats that didn’t require a whole new audio/video monitor to achieve any benefit at all.


20 posted on 05/06/2008 11:35:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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Bump


23 posted on 05/06/2008 11:38:27 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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The reported declines in Blu-ray player sales aren't actually declines at all; they only apply to standalone players. Sony's PlayStation 3 has been moving serious units

Yup. I had no intention of buying a Blu-ray player but as it turns out I'll be getting one in the form of a PS3. And as it turns out, the PS3 player will be more up-to-date and more future-proof than the standalone players, some of which are already obsolete as new Blu-ray player profiles are rolled out (the new spec is Blu-ray 2.0).

But I won't be making nearly the investment in Blu-ray that I did with standard DVD 10 years ago - the future is clear: streaming video from your local storage or some remote pay site.
27 posted on 05/06/2008 11:40:29 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I dont plan on getting into HDTV until later this year, or early next year. That said, HDTV is MUCH better than standard resolution, IF you have the right source. Blu-Ray is such a source.

I am the first to say that the "new" stuff isn't that much better than the current stuff (Conservative that I am), but I've seen movies on HDTV screens that simply jumped out of the plane, and grabbed me.

There are still some problems with the technology, and the price isn't quite there for me yet, but I plan on upgrading. I DO find standard def TV perfectly adequate for much of my viewing, however.

28 posted on 05/06/2008 11:40:35 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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Anyone wanting a BD player, most will buy the PS3.. its the cheapest one out there, comes with a nice game system as well, and will handle all upgrades to the format.

This “stand alone player” numbers is right out of the old HD-DVD camp trying to spin.

Every PS3 sold is a BD player, and if you are in a store with only a BD player costing 400 or 500 right beside a PS3 that is a BD player with a game system as well for 400.... most will pick up the PS3.

This seperating out the PS3 from dedicated players to prove something about sales is idiotic.


29 posted on 05/06/2008 11:42:47 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I've got a Progressive Scan DVD player going in through the five wire HD input using regular CDs and the result is super. Can't tell the difference from when I'm in the Sales showroom although they tell me it is.

Had Comcast's HD box, but that didn't give me much more than just a full screen. I returned it and went back to the regular digital box and paid $30 less a month.

So IMHO, an HDTV is great, but I don't think one needs all the fandangle stuff to enjoy it.

30 posted on 05/06/2008 11:50:14 AM PDT by sr4402
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No one is talking about it, but the overhead of BlueRay (Microsoft, Sony and Hollywood) killed it before it had a chance.

It's bad enough to have operating systems hobbled, and new technology rendered useless by computer software. Putting up with it, and having to pay a premium for its implementation is adding insult to injury.

Perhaps the death of HDDVD was premature.

32 posted on 05/06/2008 12:11:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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The PS3 is also the only player where you knew you’d get the final Blu-Ray spec eventually without paying a penny more. It has the processor power, networking and storage space, so all that was needed was a software update.


33 posted on 05/06/2008 12:23:35 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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A piece of advice if I may offer...
The Black Friday sales are your best bet to find an HDTV at a good price - save your money and wait for the opportune moment.
My wife and I did just that a year and a half ago - we set aside $1000 over the year for an HDTV. We checked online in late November for the Black Friday ads, and then went into the stores the week before to actually check out the models that would be available. We got up early, stood in line for maybe half an hour, got into the store and out in 20 mins, went home and hooked up a 51in rear-projection unit that gets crystal clear pictures. We then went to breakfast - it was still early enough that the restaurant manager was just unlocking the door as we arrived. Total price, tax and breakfast included, was less than $900.
- We paid less for a large screen HDTV than a lot of people are paying for 35in CRTs. I got the PS3 for Blue-Ray and HD audio - looks and sounds great and plays the reg DVDs clearer than my Zenith high scan DVD player ever did.


52 posted on 05/06/2008 1:14:32 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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