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New Data on Sea Ice Contradicts Media Climate Change Reporting
Newsbusters.org ^
| May 6, 2008
| Jeff Poor
Posted on 05/06/2008 7:53:13 AM PDT by Rufus2007
If the Earth has a fever, as former Vice President Al Gore suggests, it's not showing signs of it.
According to Climateaudit.org's Steve McIntyre, global sea ice has actually increased.
"On a global basis, world sea ice in April 2008 reached levels that were unprecedented' for the month of April in over 25 years," Steve McIntyre wrote on Climateaudit.org on May 4. "Levels are the third highest (for April) since the commencement of records in 1979, exceeded only by levels in 1979 and 1982."
That data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) suggests the effects of global warming aren't as dire as some media reports would have you believe. A segment on ABC's March 28 "Good Morning America" warned melting sea ice is endangering the global warming alarmists' favorite mascot, the polar bear.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; seaice; stevemcintrye
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Who's rapping the knuckles on the Chinese, the Indians, the Russians???? I'm thinking they are far greater offenders than the U.S. The purpose of this whole business is to rap YOUR knuckles while the Indians and Chinese catch up. If guilting you about AGW serves the purpose, they'll beat that drum as long as they can. If they gotta find a different drum, so be it.
The problems change from year to year, but the solution is always the same.
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posted on
05/06/2008 9:05:39 AM PDT
by
thulldud
(Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
To: RightWhale; neverdem; sionnsar; Reform Canada; xcamel; cogitator
That's OK, yesyerday CNN’s morning radio show claimed that Antarctica’s ice was at “record lows” (now? - just before winter starts down there, it makes sense that ice is less) and that the winter of 2007-2008 doesn't matter, because we are going to see colder temp's between now and 2015.
That's because the ocean currents are turning colder, you see, and won't warm up until 2015. (Despite the inconvenient fact that ocean waters warm up or cool down BECAUSE of colder or warmer surface temperatures and air temperatures and solar irradiation levels, not CAUSING less radiation!)
Let's see: Cycle 24 - if it ever starts - should be about 11 years long. 2008 + 11/2 = 2013-2015.
But after 2015, Solar Cycle 24 begins to decrease, thus indicating the sun's magnetic influence lowers, causing less cosmic ray shielding, more cosmic ray interaction, more cloud cover, less net solar radiation received on earth, lower overall temperatures.
Solar Cycle 25 has been predicted to be a very low cycle - determined from low levels of deep layer sun currents by NASA.
So the global warming extremists are claiming that we will see lower temperatures from now until 2015 - then greatly increasing temp's after CO2 builds up.
Solar GW theory predicts lower temperatures for a little while before Solar Cycle 24 begins, then a short period of warming temps during cycle 24, then a period of lower temps between cycle 24 and 25, then overall lower temperatures during Cycle 25 - since Cycle 25 has been long predicted to be very, very low activity.
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posted on
05/06/2008 9:14:16 AM PDT
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Has Newt been taking x and going to all-night raves? What happened to his once-fine brain?
To: Old_Professor; CedarDave
Check my logic: Seems we have a nice, 20 year “experiment” going on that should be able to debunk the AGW extremist positions....
Not that they want to get debunked, or are mentally able to be convinced (converted ?) to another “religion” contrary to their anti_US, anti-capitalist, anti-energy, anti-freedom dogma, or would admit it when they were proved wrong.
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posted on
05/06/2008 9:18:54 AM PDT
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: DBrow
Apparently, it’s snow cover on land as it dissapears as the summer and fall come on.
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posted on
05/06/2008 9:29:35 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: thulldud
Doh! I forgot. It's the extended version of “The Great Society,” and we all can see how well that's worked. When we face problems in society, we go after the ones hardest who will be the least risky to challenge — the good ol’ USofA. My bad. It's the “Through the Looking Glass” world now.
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
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posted on
05/06/2008 10:18:21 AM PDT
by
neverdem
(I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
To: Rufus2007
We are in a cooling cycle, the beginning of a little ice age, and plants are going to need the extra carbon emissions to give them strength to fight the cold. The warming scam is getting exposed, and the flimflam kooks are getting desperate.
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posted on
05/06/2008 10:20:49 AM PDT
by
pallis
To: Rufus2007; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


FactCheck data..
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posted on
05/06/2008 10:23:10 AM PDT
by
xcamel
(Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
To: mgc1122
Todays solar image. Not ONE Sunspot to be seen....
IF we are entering a new prolonged sunspot minimum "warming" will be the least of our concerns....
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posted on
05/06/2008 10:23:42 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
To: Rufus2007; 11B40; A Balrog of Morgoth; A message; ACelt; Aeronaut; AFPhys; AlexW; America_Right; ...
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posted on
05/06/2008 11:59:03 AM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
To: Rufus2007; Delacon; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Timeout; Entrepreneur; ...
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So the global warming extremists are claiming that we will see lower temperatures from now until 2015 - then greatly increasing temp's after CO2 builds up.Not lower temperatures; a lower trend. Warming over the period is still expected.
To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ..
Thanks neverdem. I thought I ordered the oceans neat.
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posted on
05/07/2008 10:47:43 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
To: cogitator
Not lower temperatures; a lower trend. Warming over the period is still expected.
It may still be projected, but I doubt there are as many that now still expect it. Hope for, is probably most accurate. You say trend, I say natural variation, and vice versa.
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posted on
05/07/2008 11:02:57 AM PDT
by
ZX12R
To: SunkenCiv
Of course.
And I ordered them cold and icy where they’re supposed to be, and warm where the palm trees thrive.
;oþ
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posted on
05/07/2008 11:04:15 AM PDT
by
Monkey Face
(I can resist anything but temptation.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
05/07/2008 11:05:39 AM PDT
by
ZX12R
To: ZX12R
It may still be projected, but I doubt there are as many that now still expect it. That probably depends on who you're surveying.
To: cogitator
That probably depends on who you're surveying.
Yes, of course. That was implied. A new survey might find more skeptics, in light of Argos, PDO, global temp not rising the last decade, Chilean volcano spewing tons of particulates into the stratosphere, unprecedented southern hemisphere sea ice levels, and so on. CYA will kick in heavy at some point, if this new "trend" continues.
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posted on
05/07/2008 12:26:49 PM PDT
by
ZX12R
To: pallis
The warming scam is getting exposed, and the flimflam kooks are getting desperate.I wish you were right. I can't watch 30 minutes of television without a reference in a program or commercial about how we are fighting global warming. I think it has permeated the national conciousness, and will be harder to get people to let go of than Bigfoot himself.
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posted on
05/07/2008 3:01:18 PM PDT
by
TN4Liberty
(Election 2008 - American Idol except no one can sing.)
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