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You’ve brought up the point few have noticed: the potential that the women and children might become hostages.

However, the actions to remove the children from the dangerous environment were actually based on interviews with underage girls, allowed — arranged — by the leaders of the cult, who claimed and wished to prove that there was no “Sarah” living among them.

During the conversations with the girls about “Sarah,” the CPS woman learned that there were several Sarahs living in the compound, that one had recently disappeared, and that the girls she talked to were either sexually abused or at risk of ritual, organized, and sanctioned sexual abuse by the adult men of the cult.

The real confusion began when women and children were asked for their names, ages, and family relationships: some were unsure until coached by the men and the same children and women would give different answers at different times!

I was surprised that the mothers were allowed to accompany their children. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of that before in child abuse cases. The CPS workers must have believed that some of the “women” were girls and/or that all the women who desired to leave needed sanctuary from abuse.

Your comment made me consider something as well.

If the men were faithful and loyal followers of Jeffs, and were convinced what Jeffs said was true, the end of the(their) world had actually started.

What would they do, if that were the case?

I think the State had to consider that.

Of course, we saw what did happen.

I think the LE’s were surprised.

Happily surprised. But prepared they were.

“You’ve brought up the point few have noticed: the potential that the women and children might become hostages.”

I already consider them hostages. Afterall, they are in state custody.

While some might consider the word of a CPS worker as the gospel, obviously I am not one of them.

What the state seeks to do in this case is to re-indoctrinate these children into a new secular environment.
I am confident you are aware of this. Does this not give you pause?

Here they will learn having two mommies or two daddies is perfectly ok. (Just not having one daddy with multiple mommies...that is bad bad bad.) They will learn how to use a condom to aid in the prevention of STDs. They will learn how to utilize birth control products and methods. They will learn how they can have an abortion if the products and methods should fail, or they failed to use them properly. They will learn the proper use of slang and other vulgarities of the secular world. They will experience the use of illicit drugs and alcohol.

Of course, under the guidance of the secular proxy mommies and daddies some may go on to receive a proper education to lead a prosperous, productive, and happy life. But then others may become drug addicted prostitutes on some sleazey urban street. We both know there is no way to accurately predict their outcome. If the state has the perfect formula, then we should all be turning our children over to the state for a proper outcome. But we all know the state is morbidly as well as morally deficient in this regard.

Finally, while many are convinced these children are being sexually abused simply based on what CPS workers contend, thus far, the state has failed to charge anyone for anything. It’s been over a month now. What’s the problem? The problem is the state has overreached seizing hostages to fish for a party or parties willing to claim abuse. Surely we can expect someone at sometime will be charged with something to justify this act of terrorism upon women and children.