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Arianna: McCain told me he didn’t vote for Bush in 2000 (Maverick double-standard...?)
Hot Air ^ | 05/05/2008 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/05/2008 10:17:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Neither did Glenn, neither did I. (I didn’t vote.) Granted, she’s a buffoon and a completely unreliable witness, but … do we maybe want to force ourselves to believe this one?

"At a dinner party in Los Angeles not long after the 2000 election, I was talking to a man and his wife, both prominent Republicans. The conversation soon turned to the new president. “I didn’t vote for George Bush” the man confessed. “I didn’t either,” his wife added. Their names: John and Cindy McCain (Cindy told me she had cast a write-in vote for her husband).

"The fact that this man was so angry at what George Bush had done to him, and at what Bush represented for their party, that he did not even vote for him in 2000 shows just how far he has fallen since then in his hunger for the presidency."

That our nominee is, shall we say, less than a fully devout Republican is something already well known to the base. A new tale of party betrayal will hurt him — but a tale of Bush betrayal, specifically? Dubya’s approval rating is 28%; according to the new Gallup, he’s a bigger liability for McCain than Wright is for Obama (although, surprisingly, only slightly). Conservatives who don’t want to believe the story can simply discard it based on the source and independents who do want to believe it can accept it as proof that McCain’s not the Bush clone the left wants him to be. Thanks, Arianna! Exit question: What did she hope to accomplish by mentioning this? Anything coherent? Bear in mind, this is a woman who convinced herself last summer that the conservative outcry against McCain had to do with his support for the war, not that little immigration matter you might have heard about. It fell to Glenn Greenwald, of all people, to set her straight

Update (Ed): I’m as mystified as Allahpundit about this story. McCain and Bush had hard feelings following the primary in 2000, so McCain’s reluctance to vote for Bush doesn’t surprise me at all. Arizona wasn’t exactly a battleground state in 2000, so McCain’s abstention hardly put the election at risk. The only takeaway from this anecdote is that McCain and Bush have two different approaches to politics, which undermines the McSame argument the DNC wants to sell this year.

And the “how much he has fallen” spin doesn’t work, either. McCain and Bush worked together on some issues and in opposition on others. McCain isn’t exactly running around the country on the Bush bandwagon. And doesn’t their rapprochement also negate the “McCain holds grudges forever” meme that Democrats pushed along as part of their focus on anger management?

Allow me to thank Arianna, too.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2000; almostkerrysvp; ariannahuffington; backstabberjohn; elections; georgewbush; huffingtonhitjob; huffingtonliberal; liberalturncoayjohn; maverick; mccain; mcrino; typicaljohnmccain; zsazsa
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To: tlb
See #76.

Ah. So either you refuse to watch the video in question, or else simply refuse to take Juan's own words at face value. The second option does make a good deal of sense, certainly.

"What" and "ever," muffin. In that order.

But reality shouldn’t interfere with trolling of course.

Evidently.

81 posted on 05/06/2008 4:03:21 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Are you suggesting that you think Arriana Huffington can be relied upon to tell the truth about a Republican running against her beloved Obama?

I’m no McCain fan, but listening to Huffington is the same as trusting Carville.


82 posted on 05/06/2008 4:04:47 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton
Oh, I'm not doing anything so pointlesly coy as "suggesting" this, that or the other thing.

I'll cheerfully state out loud, forthrightly and for the record: Juan McCain and Arianna Huffington are roughly equivalent, insofar as serial lying is concerned.

Anyone wants to believe either one or the other, over the other, has (IMHO) a 50/50 chance of picking the right horse, in any given circumstance.

Clearer now, I hope. ;)

83 posted on 05/06/2008 4:08:41 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I would vote for Stalin to keep Hillary and Obama out of the Whitehouse. Don’te vote for McCain. Who cares. But why keep pushing the Democrat line. It smells Trollish.


84 posted on 05/06/2008 4:09:55 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: 1035rep
She's a flaming liberal kook.

Just this am, I heard an interview by Bohannan where Arianna was decrying the fact that the MSM is in the tank for the extreme right because among other things, the NY Slimes has Bill Kristol on their staff. It got worse. She's crazy.

85 posted on 05/06/2008 4:12:09 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

By the way. Nice profile. You are a very sick “person”.


86 posted on 05/06/2008 4:12:32 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Who? Why is anything said by this “arianna” blogger trustworthy? Is this a honest blogger, or just some wacky myspacer?


87 posted on 05/06/2008 4:13:21 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Soliton
See #68. Is that "the Democrat line" too, pray tell...?

"Trollish," I reserve for (among other various and sundry online sins) referring to the beliefs of your site host as being... well... "trollish," to borrow a phrase. That's most likely just me, though.

88 posted on 05/06/2008 4:13:32 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: calcowgirl

“Will McCain be offering an apology for Salter’s remarks?”

LOL. THAT is good :)


89 posted on 05/06/2008 4:13:51 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Soliton
By the way. Nice profile. You are a very sick “person”.

Oh? Pali sympathizer, then? Quelle surprise.

Here's the special button, gumdrop. Hit it, by all means, if you genuinely think you've got a case.

*snort*

90 posted on 05/06/2008 4:16:34 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I will not be responding to you any longer. You are an angry little man. That is the only button I need to push. Try offering something positive somewhere.

I am a supporter of Israel. I do not think the Israelis did anything wrong in accidentally killing Rachel Corrie. But to post a picture of her dead body, call her names, and the celebrate her death, is sick. It is a window into your soul. It makes the fact that you would want to destroy America just because you hate McCain easier to understand. Good luck with the hate and all that.


91 posted on 05/06/2008 4:24:12 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: bvw
Why is anything said by this “arianna” blogger trustworthy?

It may or may not be, in this instance: essentially, a serial lair is accusing another serial liar. The slower few here are, unfortunately, experiencing no little difficulty in coming to grips with the baseline concept. ;) Follow the original link, for further details.

92 posted on 05/06/2008 4:27:25 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Hildy

“huge boobs?”

Never noticed. Got proof?


93 posted on 05/06/2008 4:30:14 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Obama and Hillary will also offer amnesty to those same illegals and Hispanics will become the new major voting block of the DNC. McCain and the other open border Republicans figure they can grab 1/3 of that vote because Republicans are pro-life. The Dems want the illegals to come and get on the government dole and suck the independent spirit out of them.

Republicans want Big Farm to have cheap labor, the other side to that coin is that a large number of these illegals will start businesses as well as open another market for our goods and have the money to buy those goods.

There is a question though and that is do we allow the Dems to turn these guys, who are coming, into welfare recipients hateful of the country they live in or do we help them learn to think of themselves as Americans and help them earn a slice of the pie?

94 posted on 05/06/2008 4:33:25 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Soliton
I will not be responding to you any longer.

Oh, don't tease. Your eternally drama queen-ish kind always promises that, but never, ever keeps said promise.

You are an angry little man.

Wrong on every level, once again. A snorting, vastly amused and openly contemptuous (of you) BIG man, actually. Good luck with the clinical projection, and all that.

Noticed your fear of openly responding to #88, incidentally. Nice skittering.

Heh. ;)

95 posted on 05/06/2008 4:34:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

McCain runs for President in 2000 and doesn’t get the nomination so he and his wife write in McCain’s name in the general election? This is a scandal? Oh brother, we really are scrapping the barrel here.


96 posted on 05/06/2008 4:41:49 AM PDT by avacado
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To: normy
Obama and Hillary will also offer amnesty to those same illegals and Hispanics will become the new major voting block of the DNC.

Oh, certainly. But I also know that I can logically depend upon conservatives in Congress to fight against any such proposal put forth by either Cankles or The Obamessiah; whereas they would be materially less likely to oppose any identical such awfulness, proffered by their party's sitting President.

As I continually tell anyone who asks: I'll be voting for actual, genuine, principled conservatives down ticket (wherever available), and leaving the top space blank. That's all the "loyalty" I owe a party which, plainly, regards conservatives such as myself as being expendable (at best), IMHO.

To quote JimRob, once again: "You kicked the conservatives to the curb and nominated your RINO, now all you gotta do is get him elected."

Makes sense to me. ;)

97 posted on 05/06/2008 4:43:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KoRn

You got that right.I wish more people saw it that way.


98 posted on 05/06/2008 4:44:31 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Oh, certainly. But I also know that I can logically depend upon conservatives in Congress to fight against any such proposal put forth by either Cankles or The Obamessiah; whereas they would be materially less likely to oppose any identical such awfulness, proffered by their party's sitting President.

I think thats a pretty rational reason for pulling a McCain on McCain.

I will vote for McCain but I don't have a problem with someone not voting for the guy. He has given Conservatives too many reasons to hate him, his biggest is the condescending attitude toward them.

I will simply be voting for permanent tax cuts and hopefully drilling in ANWAR.

99 posted on 05/06/2008 4:50:56 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
I think thats a pretty rational reason for pulling a McCain on McCain.

I will vote for McCain but I don't have a problem with someone not voting for the guy. He has given Conservatives too many reasons to hate him, his biggest is the condescending attitude toward them.

Thank you, FRiend. Unlike the unfortunate majority of McCain supporters on this very thread: you are civil, and listen fully as well as you explain (and you do the latter quite well, incidentally). My sincerest, most genuine kudos and gratitude, FReeper to FReeper. ;)

100 posted on 05/06/2008 4:54:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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