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To: CharlesWayneCT; DoughtyOne

>>Unemployment is at 5%. There are an estimated 8 million or so people out of work who want to work.<<

Let’s assume you are correct, although “unemployment” is presently rising and usually does not count those who have given up looking for work.

>>If all 12 million were thrown out, that would be 4 million more jobs open than there are people looking for work.<<

Not to worry. If deportation (including self-deportation) ever reduced the number of illegals by even 30%, the congressional stampede to bring in more guest workers and/or pass amnesty would cause such severe injuries to members of congress that multiple amulances would be needed at the capitol.

>>Certainly, with higher wages offered, we could get a significant number of people to move into these jobs.

But not all 12 million.<<

Agree.

>>As part of getting rid of illegals, we need to increase our ability to bring in controlled, TEMPORARY immigrant workers.<<

One problem is that we have no visa exit tracking system, so temporary worker programs, although a good idea in principle, add to the number of illegals, and this increases the pressure for another amnesty program. Another side-effect is that some legal temp workers bring in their families and have anchor babies, which have a great effect 20 years down the road.

Let’s see if McCain proposes totally new temp worker programs, even though IMO we have enough programs. I would guess that he will, but we’ll see.

>>But last month, when asked what comes next, he said several times that it was important to increase avenues for LEGAL immigration, including guest worker programs.<<

What is wrong with the temp worker programs we already have? If deportation creates real labor shortages, responsible temp worker programs are fine, but why do we need to “increase avenues for LEGAL immigration?”


63 posted on 05/06/2008 6:35:29 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Let’s face it, we could employ all our citizens with no problem. This issue isn’t about jobs though folks. Don’t kid yourself. It’s about moving a massive amount of non-U.S. Citizens in here, that won’t gove a fig about our Constitution, and will vote for anything the politicoes want.

What happens if we do build a wall and it cuts off all illegal immigration? As you of you intimated, a guest worker program would be expanded to grant entrance. What most folks fail to realize, is that if zero come across the border illegaly, massive gues worker programs will allow in even more than have been coming here.

The goal is to get those people here and nothing is going to stop that from happening. The powers that be want them here, and they’re going to come here, to hell with the costs.

Our leaders are basically traitors. They do not serve at our will. They enforce their own.


68 posted on 05/06/2008 11:20:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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