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To: goodnesswins
What’s really sad now is that I hesitate going to a “minority” doctor.....

That minority doctor still has to pass the medical boards. If that person was passed through school due to minority status, they'd get caught at the boards. In fact, I think they'd have problems in med school and wouldn't be able to coast on grade-inflated As and Bs received in undergrad.

I'm a minority and have a JD as well as a PhD. I am getting sick to death of the anti-minority bashing that seems to be more frequent on these boards. Obama hatred seems to have brought out the worst in my FReeper brothers and sisters lately. (I'm not an Obama supporter, nor a soldier in Operation Chaos. See the tagline; I don't vote for Dims.)

btw - White kids cry and moan about their grades all the time. They threaten to have their parents call, their parents' lawyer call, to go to the Dean, and everything else. It's NOT a minority issue, it's a 'students as customers' mindset held by the universities and colleges.

47 posted on 05/05/2008 9:15:32 PM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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To: radiohead
It's NOT a minority issue, it's a 'students as customers' mindset held by the universities and colleges.

I would ask you to look a little deeper as that is much too capitalistic for our educators today. Why are prices (tuition) going up so rapidly lately? Hint: Government grants and subsidies based on number of students and the number of students is based on how easy and fun the school. That amount is also effected by the tuition - the higher the more money from Uncle Sam.

"Students as customers" implies a buying and selling arrangement. In fact, it is more like farm subsidies and central planning with the "customer" just being a pawn between the seller and the government.

Eventually, no one will be able to afford to go so the government will be "forced" to provide Universal Education, like Universal Health Care.

In its purest sense I agree that this particular situation is not a minority issue but minorities do play a part in the bigger scheme of things.

A large number of minorities, including women who make up nearly 50% of the population, have been encouraged and propagandized into becoming victims to set up this kind of arrangement.

Give them (minorities, meaning all but white men) enough government money and support to keep them functioning as victims but not enough direction to get them out of the victim class, add political correctness and the glorification of a misused definition of diversity for special considerations and you have the recipe for our present situation.

These are not unintended consequences but, instead, are the desired results of those intent on using our freedoms, moral beliefs and generosity to destroy our strong and great society for their own benefit.

51 posted on 05/05/2008 10:14:26 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: radiohead

I’m not “minority bashing”.....I’m reflecting the skepticism that comes from 20 years of Affirmative Action....that’s the reality. And, I agree it’s students of all stripes who are lazy....and whining.


52 posted on 05/05/2008 10:27:42 PM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: radiohead

You are right on the money RH. This isn’t a minority issue. Weak students are weak students. Skin color is irrelevant to this problem. Any community college in the country, along with any city or regional state school (not the figurehead state universities) is in the business of converting federal financial aid dollars into bureaucrats’ salaries.

Black, white, brown or green, these schools are not going to punish weak students. They are going to pass them along, hoping that despite the students’ weak skills, weak motivational patterns and weak environments, there will eventually be some worthwhile learning.

Finally, remember that being academically weak doesn’t mean that your educational case is hopeless. People grow and mature. Give the schools a little credit.

You don’t have to worry about your doctor. Pass or fail, there aren’t many Norfolk State Students who are going to survive the grind long enough to complete medical school anywhere. The few that can survive— they are very strong people, dedicated to their goals, and not a bad bet for competent care.


54 posted on 05/05/2008 10:42:53 PM PDT by VaFarmer
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To: radiohead

Well said. If I ever need a neurosurgeon I’d definitely go with Benjamin Carson.

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/car1bio-1


55 posted on 05/06/2008 4:30:43 AM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: radiohead; goodnesswins; VaFarmer

I am a black nursing student and I know more than a few great nurses who graduated from NSU. I did not feel that this article was an issue of race, but an example of how we cripple our children by not requiring or expecting excellence from them. I hesitated posting it because, all the under-cover-Kluckers seem to come out of the woodwork if they smell the chum of RACE in the water. And unfortunately, my predictions were correct.


57 posted on 05/06/2008 5:13:53 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: radiohead
Obama hatred seems to have brought out the worst in my FReeper brothers and sisters lately.

You got it wrong. It's:

"Obama's hatred seems to have brought out the worst...

58 posted on 05/06/2008 5:25:32 AM PDT by ladyjane
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